Player Discussion Marco Scandella

[Dee Oh Cee]

If turning your back to the checker makes a boarding your fault (Ballard) then shouldn't skating down the middle of the ice and putting your head down creating head contact be your fault too?

Not sure if that makes sense the way I wrote it.

Edit: More saying that hit on Ballard was way more dangerous than anything Scandella might have done. Guy might have his career ended by a totally unnecessary hit. But it's his fault cause he turned to avoid it? Don't really get it.

 

[rynryn]

in a vacuum this was suspension worthy. i mean in a vacuum where other guys don't get off discipline for the same exact thing and without comparing it to other potentially injurious hits. it was the second head shot in a short period of time and there is no way i wouldn't have been calling for a suspension if some guy on the other team in Scandella's disciplinary position had a second offense against one of our guys.
so, fair punishment.

 

[57special]

If turning your back to the checker makes a boarding your fault (Ballard) then shouldn't skating down the middle of the ice and putting your head down creating head contact be your fault too?

Not sure if that makes sense the way I wrote it.

Edit: More saying that hit on Ballard was way more dangerous than anything Scandella might have done. Guy might have his career ended by a totally unnecessary hit. But it's his fault cause he turned to avoid it? Don't really get it.

Completely agree. Don't see how Martin is getting a pass, and Scandella suspended.

 

[thestonedkoala]

in a vacuum this was suspension worthy. i mean in a vacuum where other guys don't get off discipline for the same exact thing and without comparing it to other potentially injurious hits. it was the second head shot in a short period of time and there is no way i wouldn't have been calling for a suspension if some guy on the other team in Scandella's disciplinary position had a second offense against one of our guys.
so, fair punishment.

Agreed.

 

[Al Lagoon]

If turning your back to the checker makes a boarding your fault (Ballard) then shouldn't skating down the middle of the ice and putting your head down creating head contact be your fault too?

Not sure if that makes sense the way I wrote it.

Edit: More saying that hit on Ballard was way more dangerous than anything Scandella might have done. Guy might have his career ended by a totally unnecessary hit. But it's his fault cause he turned to avoid it? Don't really get it.

This infuriates me - we've seen it with Bogosain on Bouchard, Krieder on Brodin, Martin on Ballard, etc.

I'ver posted my reaction in several threads.

I DO think the end result should play a role - hell, both of Scandella's victims barely missed a shift, and Martin may have ended a career; plus, it was a uselass "finish the check" kind of hit, as opposed to putting a shoulder into the puck carrier.

It's like the guy lifting Butch's stick into his own face - absurd. If you need to be in control of your stick at all times, how about extending that to the body.

If the hittee can react, so should the hitter. BS NHL.

 

[rynryn]

physical play is the one area almost every team in the league has a clear advantage over us (aside from the PP :/). It'd be stupid to not send out your checkers to beat on our team to the extent their abilities let them. Martin is a very good checker. it's not a useless hit.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Also, Garbutt only gets one more game after 2 slew foots and actually being suspended not too long ago for kneeing.

Bogus.

 

[Northland Wild Man]

I still can't believe he got a suspension for that. To me he threw a good hard check that was meant to stop the advancing player entering the zone. I think if he really wanted to put his lights out he could have, but he didn't. It looks to me like he got part shoulder and the side of the head.

 

[TaLoN]

I still can't believe he got a suspension for that. To me he threw a good hard check that was meant to stop the advancing player entering the zone. I think if he really wanted to put his lights out he could have, but he didn't. It looks to me like he got part shoulder and the side of the head.

He wasn't suspended JUST for that. If it was only that hit, I doubt the NHL would've looked at anything... but when you also take in account the Oshie hit 10 days earlier that he got off light, you knew it was coming.

 

[Al Lagoon]

I guess I'm not used to shoulder to body hits being considered dirty. Elbows, skates leaving the ice, boarding from behind, knees, these make sense to me. Scandella was just playing physical hockey without any of that. Yeah, there was some contact to the chin, but same deal when you drop the mitts and slug somebody. He was just making good hockey plays. His "victims" missed barely a few shifts if that. BS suspension.

That he earned a 2 gamer for that, and Martin likely ended a career and didn't even earn a minor, that's just dumb. More an indictment of the NHL than Martin truth be told.

 

[TaLoN]

I can understand consistency arguments, but that's been an issue forever. I've given up on consistency, and just instead look at each incident on an island if I can.

Looking at Scandella's 2 hits in 10 days, the moment the hit happened, I was like... "He's getting a suspension."

 

[Al Lagoon]

I can understand consistency arguments, but that's been an issue forever. I've given up on consistency, and just instead look at each incident on an island if I can.

Looking at Scandella's 2 hits in 10 days, the moment the hit happened, I was like... "He's getting a suspension."

But if he hits those guys an inch lower, no problem - he "stands em up," nothing dirty intended. Intent, results, aftermath....

I know, it ain't easy, but maddening it is.

 

[Northland Wild Man]

I really hope he doesn't change his game because of the suspension. His aggressive play as of late was just great IMO.

 

[cassidy7676]

Sry if I am suppose to ask those kinds of thing in the fantasy section board But since its about his actual performance curve and you guys Watch Minn players all the time, I think its okay if I post it here.

I am on a fantasy league that higly value goal and PIM, and I only have one trade left.

My question is: Do you think Scandella second half of the season will be similar to the first half or is he playing way over his head? Are those PIMs the results of some incidents or is he just playing a gritty borderline game? Ive read that maybe he's going to get some PP minutes over Suter in a foresable future, what do you guys think?

Sry again for the flooding of your board with fantasys questions (and for my deficient English as well )

 

[tomgilbertfan]

Scandy changed his stick height and worked on his shooting all summer so his increased production is directly related to that. It may dip down some but I'm willing to bet he will lead the wilds d in goals at the end of the season.

Not sure about the PIM.

 

[Minnesota]

Don't think he's playing over his head at all.

 

[Jarick]

13.8% shooting percentage probably isn't sustainable for a D-man, but I could see him getting a good 20-30% more shots if he were on the top PP unit.

 

[ThatGuy22]

13.8% shooting percentage probably isn't sustainable for a D-man, but I could see him getting a good 20-30% more shots if he were on the top PP unit.

Definitely isn't sustainable.

 

[Avder]

And now he's not playing tomorrow.

This team....

 

[123TripleDoge]

Guessing c word from that check he took against (Dallas I think)? Where he was pushed from behind and then hit up high. Played through it. Then, the slapshot to the noggin jarred something and he started feeling off. Seen it time and time again with concussions and this team. But then again, could be a shoulder

 

[Jarick]

That's my guess as well. He looked really bad last night.

 

[Minnesota]

NHL.com

Scandella was hurt early in the third period Tuesday in a loss to the San Jose Sharks with an upper-body injury and did not return to that game. He also didn't practice Wednesday, but Yeo said he was feeling better today and could return as soon as Saturday against the Nashville Predators.

 

[Engebretson]

NHL.com

 

[Minnesota]

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[Jarick]

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