Making a Case for Kadri as FLC
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TLeafsFan
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Lupul – Kadri – Kessel would be the #1 worst defensive line in the NHL.
Naz isn’t a first line center, and there’s a good chance that he never will be. He’s a good young player but in my opinion he lacks the athleticism (strength, explosiveness) required to be a 1C. Hope I’m wrong, but he was not good at all last year. I don’t care if he puts up less than 50 points this year, I just need to see more consistency and shift-to-shift compete level.
Naz isn’t a first line center, and there’s a good chance that he never will be. He’s a good young player but in my opinion he lacks the athleticism (strength, explosiveness) required to be a 1C. Hope I’m wrong, but he was not good at all last year. I don’t care if he puts up less than 50 points this year, I just need to see more consistency and shift-to-shift compete level.
nope.
don't mess with chemistry.
Kessel and JVR handle the offense on the line while Bozak deals with the nitty gritty, FO% and excellent back checking. They compliment each other nicely. There's no reason why he can't pitch in a little more either...
don't mess with chemistry.
Kessel and JVR handle the offense on the line while Bozak deals with the nitty gritty, FO% and excellent back checking. They compliment each other nicely. There's no reason why he can't pitch in a little more either...
ACC1224
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Thanks, I'm not up all the acronyms you kids use.
IMO. Kessel drives the 1st line, Kadri the 2nd.
TLeafsFan
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My gut tells me different. Did you read the article I posted? There is tremendous upside and it far outweighs what the current top line has the potential to offer.
Shanny favours high risk/reward. That's what will end up being the ATM I know, but status quo = Leafs mediocrity.
TLeafsFan
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nope.
don't mess with chemistry.
Kessel and JVR handle the offense on the line while Bozak deals with the nitty gritty, FO% and excellent back checking. They compliment each other nicely. There's no reason why he can't pitch in a little more either...
The games down the stretch tells me that "chemistry" doesn't get it done.
Read the article.
In October, leading up to the Bolland injury, Kadri got it done.
Daisy Jane
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even if kadri was getting it done offensively,
A: why are you putting ALL your offensive weapons on one line? (for as much people lament and bemoan that Kadri and Kessel aren't together making oodles of goals together like the linemates they should be - WHY are you putting it all on one line? spread it out).
B: I don't think Nazzy is ready to be there
A: why are you putting ALL your offensive weapons on one line? (for as much people lament and bemoan that Kadri and Kessel aren't together making oodles of goals together like the linemates they should be - WHY are you putting it all on one line? spread it out).
B: I don't think Nazzy is ready to be there
Mess
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Kadri's FO% and lesser QofC was below most of his teammates last season. To drive puck possession that begins with winning draws successfully.
Until Kadri becomes better in the dot he will not be competing for the #1C spot. IMO
TLeafsFan
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I want to see it as an experiment, given our current center options to start the season.
In the meantime, give Holland, Kontiola and Santorelli opportunity at 2LC.
I'm 36, BTW. Is that a kid to you?
TLeafsFan
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Holland hardly has the sample size and QoC Kadri had. Those percentages aren't miles apart either and Kadri was far better in that department toward the end of the season.
He eventually became the favourite over Hodgson in the Worlds, too for the center position.
Nithoniniel
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It would be a case of possible strengthening the first line to the cost of less effective depth. Having an offense driving player on each of the top three lines would be my preference, not putting them all on a line together.
The road to success is not to get as much points out of the first line as possible.
The road to success is not to get as much points out of the first line as possible.
TLeafsFan
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That's why its only a ten game experiment.
During those ten games, Kontiola, Holland or Santorelli could prove effective as 2LC.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
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We're not deep at center, Pittsburgh is deep at center. San Jose is deep at center, Boston is deep at center, Colorado is deep at center, heck even Ottawa last year was deeper at center.
We're not deep at center
.Why even bother mentioning Holland and Bolland's FO%? Look at how many face-offs they took.
Btw, Paul Gastad took 1200 faceoffs last season with a FO% of 58.0. Do you consider him a #1C? Or how about Boyd Gordon with 1492 faceoffs and a FO% of 56.5? Jarrett Stoll, 1239 faceoffs and FO% 54.7?
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TLeafsFan
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We're not deep at center, Pittsburgh is deep at center. San Jose is deep at center, Boston is deep at center, Colorado is deep at center, heck even Ottawa last year was deeper at center.
We're not deep at center
Leafs that can play center in the NHL:
Kadri
Bozak
Kontiola
Komarov
Santorelli
Smith
Holland
Make this a season of opportunity for players to step up.
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I have nothing against trying whatever to see if it works. But I truly hope that one of the things we try is Lupul-Bozak-Kessel and seeing what Riemer and Kadri can do on the 2nd line. Lupul's contribution was pretty small last year, maybe we can get him going again if only to up his trade value. And if Riemer can do a better job than Lupul on the 2nd line wouldn't that be awesome!
Brozak
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Bozak does well with Kessel and JVR. Balances out the talent nicely, you forget how good Bozak really is (58gms, 19 goals, 49pts). I'm not saying he's better than Kadri, but he compliments the playing style of his current wingers.
It's good to spread out the talent amongst the top six, and besides Lupul and Kadri are pretty money together too.
It's good to spread out the talent amongst the top six, and besides Lupul and Kadri are pretty money together too.
I wouldn't mind exploring it again. Bozak had years to develop chemistry with Kessel.
JVR-Kadri-Kessel
Lupul-Holland-Santorelli
Winnik-Bozak-Frattin
Komorav-Kontiola-Clarkson
Ashton
In Kadri's defense last season, he was the only centre left because this team lacked depth. Everyone else was suspended so there were call ups so other teams would focus on that one line.
Even if the team does bad, it's a deep draft this year. And if we can get McDavid, perfect
JVR-Kadri-Kessel
Lupul-Holland-Santorelli
Winnik-Bozak-Frattin
Komorav-Kontiola-Clarkson
Ashton
In Kadri's defense last season, he was the only centre left because this team lacked depth. Everyone else was suspended so there were call ups so other teams would focus on that one line.
Even if the team does bad, it's a deep draft this year. And if we can get McDavid, perfect
TLeafsFan
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I don't like that nickname for JVR.
Sound like you're making our backup goalie a forward.
Daisy Jane
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Reimer is going to play forward now?
D i knew it was a typo, but as i have no idea who you really mean, i am stumped)
TLeafsFan
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Reimer is going to play forward now?
Riemsdyk.
down the stretch? when they meant nothing? when we were already out of the playoffs?
the leafs were at their best with bozak on the top line. once the injuries started to pile up is when we started to have issues... then consistency became an issue; a common problem for young teams.
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