Makar vs Hughes

[John Johnson]

How about players like Paul Karyia and Jack Eichel . I guess they looked like 3rd liners too ehhh...

They would have still been good had they won the award or not, all Im saying is that winning it doesn't directly corelate to becoming a great NHLer. Makar obviously looks like he is but the Hobey Baker award itself is overrated IMO.

 

[Muffin]

They were both great in college, but I don't get the weight put into the Hobey Baker award. Sure its a good award and all but its also been won by non-NHLers and players like Jimmy Vesey and Adam Gaudette, both of whom look like 3rd liners at this point. Also I believe Hughes came in like 2nd or 3rd place in HB voting for his second year of college.

Makar won it as a sophomore, makes a huge difference when they win it. The last player that won the award that wasn't a Junior or Senior was Eichel.

 

[Orca Smash]

Makar won it as a sophomore, makes a huge difference when they win it. The last player that won the award that wasn't a Junior or Senior was Eichel.

Eichel was also only 18 years old, and it was in his draft year.

 

[lawrence]

Hughes for me. He kills it his advanced stats is superior, it's actually not even close.

Hughes.

How about players like Paul Karyia and Jack Eichel . I guess they looked like 3rd liners too ehhh...

well yea, so is Drew LeBlanc and Jack Connolly. Sure as hell lighting it up eh.

 

[tucker3434]

Hughes for me. He kills it his advanced stats is superior, it's actually not even close.

Hughes.



well yea, so is Drew LeBlanc and Jack Connolly. Sure as hell lighting it up eh.

As long as the only advanced stat you look at is Corsi, I guess that’s right. Makar is better in HDCF%, SCF%, xGF% etc.

 

[avsfan09]

You cant have it both ways though, makars first year of college people blamed his team being bad for his production, at the same age hughes outproduced makar by quite a bit. If quinn was in the ncaa at 20 could he produce like makar did last year? We will never know. And at quinns age of 19 his ncaa production (over a point per game) for a defense-man his production last I looked was extraordinary at that age.

You can tilt these arguments anyway you want in favor of one or the other.

Makar definitely had an adjustment period coming from the AJHL a league he absolutely dominated it took a little while for him to get comfortable influencing a higher level of competition. But his last season was the best either of them have put together. Obviously Hughes never got a second season so it’s fair to compare their first seasons just not without considering Makar’s adjustment period.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

If Makars last 2 games are a sign of things to come for him.... This bump from a Canucks fan is going to look very silly again soon enough.

 

[Dominance]

Hughes for me. He kills it his advanced stats is superior, it's actually not even close.

Hughes.



well yea, so is Drew LeBlanc and Jack Connolly. Sure as hell lighting it up eh.

As long as the only advanced stat you look at is Corsi, I guess that’s right. Makar is better in HDCF%, SCF%, xGF% etc.

Well, he’s not coming back from that one.

 

[Orca Smash]

If Makars last 2 games are a sign of things to come for him.... This bump from a Canucks fan is going to look very silly again soon enough.

Nobodies going to look silly, it is silly to think right now their is some big separation between these two prospects. Both are two of the best D prospects in the league with tons of potential and they are just starting their career 10 games into the season.

 

[lawrence]

As long as the only advanced stat you look at is Corsi, I guess that’s right. Makar is better in HDCF%, SCF%, xGF% etc.

please kindly show.

thank you in advance.

 

[tucker3434]

please kindly show.

thank you in advance.

Quinn Hughes - Summary - Natural Stat Trick

Cale Makar - Summary - Natural Stat Trick

Edit: And if you flip the stats back to last year’s playoffs, you’ll see why Avs fans have been disappointed in Makar’s play so far. It’s not really that he’s been bad this year. It’s that he was so good last year in extremely important games.

 

[Sergei Shirokov]

These guys are both going to be Calder finalists IMO.

Makar looks great, no reason to bash him. Hughes has been very good too. Can't wait till they play head to head.

 

[TruePowerSlave]

Makar is tied for the lead in rookie scoring and is just starting to get comfortable offensively. Wouldn't surprise me if he became the highest-scoring rookie D in the cap era.

 

[Grantham]

I agree with Sergei above, no reason that we can’t spread the love. Both amazing rookie D. A real privilege to be able to watch them.

As a Canucks fan, I’ve watched Hughes every game, and he has been better than even my already very high expectations. He improved his strength and slap shot in the offseason and it shows. He actually wins a lot of battles where he should be losing due to his size. Seems like he has freakish strength for being so small. I thought he would really struggle defensively, but he has thrived.

I look forward to watching Makar every game because, well, most of all I’m a fan of hockey.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Makar is tied for the lead in rookie scoring and is just starting to get comfortable offensively. Wouldn't surprise me if he became the highest-scoring rookie D in the cap era.

Yes. He’s tied with Hughes. Either one could end up with the most points for a rookie D.

 

[McJesusSaves97]

Chose Makar, but both look very good so far....

 

[Nabrules]

Quinn Hughes!

 

[M2Beezy]

They couldnt be FARTHER away statsically this year:

Q Hughes
GP: 12
G: 1
A: 9
PTS: 10
+/-: +1
SHOTS: 17
FACEOFF PCTG: 0%

Makar
GP: 12
G: 1
A: 9
PTS: 10
+/-: 0
SHOTS: 16
FACEOFF PCTG: 0%

 

[Wry n Ginger]

I would encourage anyone that feels like they have a horse in this race to just chill until March or so and then comment. It is fun to imagine how each "might " do and analyze their games and results but all of us know it is WAY too early to start to break down the performance of rookies this early. (That being said Hughes is way better... )

 

[avsfan09]

They’re wildly different and my teams rookie is better.

They couldnt be FARTHER away statsically this year:

Q Hughes
GP: 12
G: 1
A: 9
PTS: 10
+/-: +1
SHOTS: 17
FACEOFF PCTG: 0%

Makar
GP: 12
G: 1
A: 9
PTS: 10
+/-: 0
SHOTS: 16
FACEOFF PCTG: 0%

 

[Rhaegar Targaryen]

Important to remember that Hughes is a full year younger than Makar. For prospects at their age, especially defensemen, that’s huge.

This is Hughes

 

[Avsboy]

Important to remember that Hughes is a full year younger than Makar. For prospects at their age, especially defensemen, that’s huge.

This is Hughes

Hughes is also smaller, which will matter on the defensive end of things

 

[Rhaegar Targaryen]

Hughes is also smaller, which will matter on the defensive end of things

Hughes is already so good at using his stick and positioning along with his hockey sense to make beautiful defensive plays

 

[hcg]

If Makars last 2 games are a sign of things to come for him.... This bump from a Canucks fan is going to look very silly again soon enough.

3 points last game for Hughes.

Makar is tied for the lead in rookie scoring and is just starting to get comfortable offensively. Wouldn't surprise me if he became the highest-scoring rookie D in the cap era.

Tied with Hughes.

Both these guys are so good.

 

[Bankerguy]

i didnt realize Hughes is a year younger. wow.