Mackinnon vs Draisaitl

[PatrickMcC]

Who is the better player? I flip flop every week on this (Ignore contracts).

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[Steven Toast]

Drai pretty easily.

Hes outproduced MacK (in totals as well as per game) 5 straight years.

 

[Buck Naked]

I tend to like my players healthy and in favor of carbohydrates.

 

[CanucksSayEh]

Does Drai know the difference between a chickpea and a garbanzo bean?

 

[82Ninety42011]

I think Drai is clearly the number 2 in league now. I mean how much more does he have to do? He's amazing in regular season and gets even better in playoffs.

 

[Regal]

I prefer MacKinnon because he’s a better play driver and 5v5 player, and I believe that’s more important from your star players, but it’s really close, and Draisaitl’s PP play is huge too

 

[I am Bettman]

I feel like mackinnon drives play more, while draisaitl produces more from singular plays or shots.

 

[Macheteops]

I voted Drai but it's pretty close for me. The deciding factor is health if contract isn't in the equation

 

[Regal]

Drai pretty easily.

Hes outproduced MacK (in totals as well as per game) 5 straight years.

The difference between them over those 5 years is only 8 points per 82. The production difference isn’t really significant enough to just point to it as the be all end all.

 

[dwonger]

The difference between them over those 5 years is only 8 points per 82. The production difference isn’t really significant enough to just point to it as the be all end all.

No. No it isn't. One is never injured and one is injured seemingly every single year. That matters, actual points matter. It's 81 points over 5 years which is 16.2 a season which is the difference between MacKinnon and Point this year and any other year when Mac doesn't have a career year a far inferior player.

I'm just glad more eastern people get to see Drai during these and last year's Playoffs to how how good he is.

He isn't a straight line skater like McDavid or Mac, he wants to slow it down and is the best at the league at doing so and protecting the puck looking for a pass or shot.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

No. No it isn't. One is never injured and one is injured seemingly every single year. That matters, actual points matter. It's 81 points over 5 years which is 16.2 a season which is the difference between MacKinnon and Point this year and any other year when Mac doesn't have a career year a far inferior player.

I'm just glad more eastern people get to see Drai during these and last year's Playoffs to how how good he is.

He isn't a straight line skater like McDavid or Mac, he wants to slow it down and is the best at the league at doing so and protecting the puck looking for a pass or shot.

Drai is often hurt and plays through it too which is pretty impressive ,not saying McKinnon dosent play hurt because he obviously does too but you cant deny draisaitl is a resilient player I guess when you are just saucing the puck around like it's nothing and just ripping pucks top shelf on reception it's easier to play hurt than the way mack plays the game balls to the wall all the time

 

[CanadienShark]

It's still Draisaitl.

 

[Zero Requiem]

How is this even a question? MacKinnon is a good player, but comparing him to the second best playoff performer in the history of the sport is just silly.

 

[daver]

How is this even a question? MacKinnon is a good player, but comparing him to the second best playoff performer in the history of the sport is just silly.

Comparing Drai to the best playoff performers in the history of the sport with 44 games under his belt is just silly.

 

[daver]

I prefer MacKinnon because he’s a better play driver and 5v5 player, and I believe that’s more important from your star players, but it’s really close, and Draisaitl’s PP play is huge too

That's the unanswered question for Drai. Put him on a team without McDavid and how does he do?

With the #1C and arguably #2 C in the league, why can't the Oilers consistently roll two strong Top 6 lines?

Mac has answered this question a bit better in my mind.

Overall, very close.

 

[bobholly39]

That's the unanswered question for Drai. Put him on a team without McDavid and how does he do?

With the #1C and arguably #2 C in the league, why can't the Oilers consistently roll two strong Top 6 lines?

Mac has answered this question a bit better in my mind.

Overall, very close.

Who says that's necessarily better though?

If you could get peak Lemieux/Gretzky playing together on the same team for 5 years - are you so sure they would run them on separate lines, vs simply putting them on the same line to dominate that much more together?

As for the question - I voted Drai. But I'll admit I do flip flop a bit too between the 2. Where I'm pretty consistent is in thinking Draisaitl can peak higher (and he has, often in past few years) than MacK. But Mack is pretty damn good and consistent himself, which keeps it close.

 

[daver]

Who says that's necessarily better though?

If you could get peak Lemieux/Gretzky playing together on the same team for 5 years - are you so sure they would run them on separate lines, vs simply putting them on the same line to dominate that much more together?

As for the question - I voted Drai. But I'll admit I do flip flop a bit too between the 2. Where I'm pretty consistent is in thinking Draisaitl can peak higher (and he has, often in past few years) than MacK. But Mack is pretty damn good and consistent himself, which keeps it close.

The point was to wonder if, in a vacuum, who is more likely to produce at the same level regardless of linemates/strength of team?

As for your example, Mario and Wayne played together on Team Canada when they could put out all-stars on their 2nd line. And Drai is neither Mario or Wayne, nor is McDavid for that matter.

The Oilers have succeeded in the regular season with playing them on separate lines for the most part but seemingly get away from that in the playoffs. Most Oiler fans point to Drai, not McDavid, as someone who cannot produce nearly as well at ES when not with McDavid.

Even prime Mario and prime Jagr were separated at ES in 95/96. Trying to roll two strong scoring lines seems like a no-brainer. Crosby and Malkin famously carried weak wingers to a Cup in '09.

It is not unreasonable to wonder why McDavid/Drai cannot do the same.

 

[Lavar Ball]

MacKinnon

 

[McFlash97]

Draisaitl is just plain and simple a better, smarter , stronger hockey player. His IQ is off the charts. His one timer is the most effective in the league. No one in NHL history has been able to put up 11 goals in thier first 7 playoff games. To the poster who said MacKinnon is more of a play driver. How is one ans done power rushes up the ice drive play more than hanging on to the puck for minutes at a time in the offensive zone and making insane plays all over the ice.

 

[NOTENOUGHRYJOTHINGS]

MacGinnon is better at scowling when he loses and being born in Canada.

In hockey these are considered extremely important.

In terms of winning games its Draisatl.

 

[tacogeoff]

its always been Drai. still people underrate him.

 

[LemonSauceD]

Draisaitl easy.

 

[TGWL]

They're different players. I think MacKinnon is more a force, exploding all over the place with the puck, while Draisaitl gets himself to the open space a lot better, and also utilized his teammates better. MacKinnon makes you hold your breath everytime he gets the puck and takes off but often nothing comes of it. It's a tough call. They're both great players.

 

[Lavar Ball]

MacGinnon is better at scowling when he loses and being born in Canada.

In hockey these are considered extremely important.

In terms of winning games its Draisatl.

Also better at winning cups apparently

 

[Muffin]

Draisaitl is a powerplay merchant, MacKinnon easily