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[TopShelfGloveSide]

Benson literally took the Condors to the division championship and one of the best players in the A...

NHL* sorry typo.
Doesn’t belong in the NHL**

 

[NeverForget06]

I get a little scared of the Hyman contract but I am generally impressed with the player.

During that Leafs series he was the one making things happen on a line with Matthews. Guy doesn't give an inch on the ice and plays hard every night.

I really hope we can get one of Hyman, Hall or Landeskog. Contracts for any are going to raise some eyebrows around here but we really need another impact forward.

With that recent Smith news from Friedman (looking at 2 year contract) it doesnt' look like fixing goaltending is priority #1

 

[K1984]

Benson has earned his opportunity BY LEADING THE AHL IN SCORING. Yams got his opportunity after far less.

There have been many players in the present and past that put up gaudy AHL numbers that have no business in the NHL.

 

[McVirginOil]

It is kind of crazy they aren't protecting him. He is a solid 3rd line guy. I don't think he is the answer for 3C like some people are stating though. He was playing wing more than C last year. Although he did play mostly C in 2019-20 and 2018-19. But he is a solid 13-18 goals/year guy in the middle of his career (353 GP). He makes $2.9 and is a RFA, so will need to have a QO around 3.25 or so I think. Basically he is a more useful Kassian after he signs his next deal. I can't imagine that Seattle won't take him, and this is certainly a player I would protect over Archie or Kassian on our team, if a trade could be worked out (picks/prospects kind of thing).

Considering that Burkie loves and wants toughness on the Pens, I reckon Kassian and small plus would pry McCann. They don’t want to lose him for nothing.

 

[EchoesoftheEighties]

I remember when Anton Lander would dominate the AHL.....

 

[TheNumber4]

He's been working on getting faster for what 4 years now? His skating had improved but not close to enough. The NHL is a much faster league than the AHL and he looks relatively slow down there, but he has the skill down there to make up for it. That won't cut it in the NHL

I’m not well versed in the time lines or curves for improving your skating. Maybe there is a point where if it hasn’t happened by now, it ain’t happening. I just hope the Oilers are smart enough to know that point and have made the call. They should be able to figure that out, but they may need to dip into the analytics bag to actually figure that out… so damn.

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

3 year sample size for Landeskog WOWY numbers:

Landeskog with MacKinnon & Rantanen TOI= 1712 mins, CF%= 58.3, GF%= 60.8 Ozone start= 66.4%
Landeskog without MacKinnon & Rantanen TOI= 401 mins, CF%= 41.7, GF%= 30.0 Ozone start= 39.9%

So obviously when Landeskog is away from MacKinnon and Rantanen and is getting a zone start bias like that he's being used in more of a defensive role, but the difference in numbers is very stark. The most important part of acquiring players from good teams (particularly high scoring teams) is identifying who is elevating who and to what extent, I put Landeskog in the very good player category, but not elite despite what his box numbers might say.

My line in the sand for Landeskog is $6.25M. Colorado is a smart well managed team, there is a reason for his apparent "low-ball" offer.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Like so much baseless things about the player “no hustle”, “can’t skate”. Guarantee you they don’t watch a lick of him in the AHL or they think 7 games tells you everything about a player.

I've watched him a bunch. Was super hyped for him for years. His flaws haven't improved enough to be good at the NHL level. He also doesn't have the skill set to be a bottom 6 guy. He has always been a top 6 or bust but he simply doesn't have the skating ability to be in the NHL.

Also the whole hustle thing is talking about camp. You'd think the kid would show SOMETHING in NHL camps after all this time but he never does. He looks out of place at camps and is constantly invisible. That's on him.
Camp is the one big chance a young player has to impress the coaching staff and maybe make the roster. Benson never has

 

[McVirginOil]

I remember when Anton Lander would dominate the AHL.....

Yea he got more than 7 games of opportunity here lol

 

[Del Preston]

That sounded like a large belch from Stauffer.

 

[McJadeddog]

He's allegedly said he's made his money and now wants to go for the cup.

He also said that last off-season and then took the highest money available from literally the worst team in the league, lol

 

[KlefDown]

Yours isn't?
What we should keep every prospect till they are 30 just in case they end up good?

I LIKED Benson. I was singing his praises for years dude.

I see a guy who is more skilled, more potential and on a better contract than Kassian. there is no sane case to keep Kassian protected over him, Seattle might not even him but would sure as hell take Benson.

he has literally played 7 NHLs in a depth role and you're writing off everything about Benson that makes him a good player

 

[PULSATING]

Would be funny if Larsson walks and Hall signs.

 

[McVirginOil]

That sounded like a large belch from Stauffer.

Sometimes I’m glad there’s someone on these boards live reporting OilersNow

 

[McDoused]

I believe the trade freeze starts in just under 24 hours from now. Interesting we havent seen any deals today. Hopefully we see some last minute deals prior to expansion.

You gotta think Nashville, Philadephia and Tampa Bay might have deals in the works with Seattle already while Arizona probably looks to trade Kuemper beforehand. Does Appleton or Copp get moved? What about Vince Dunn?

 

[CycloneSweep]

I’m not well versed in the time lines or curves for improving your skating. Maybe there is a point where if it hasn’t happened by now, it ain’t happening. I just hope the Oilers are smart enough to know that point and have made the call. They should be able to figure that out, but they may need to dip into the analytics bag to actually figure that out… so damn.

This past season is really hard to judge for the AHL as competition has plummeted. Some teams were playing with half their roster as almost ECHL level players too. That and the limited teams they played against. Him and Skinner had good years but it's hard to tell how much of that was just quality of competition and how much of it was them

 

[TheNumber4]

He's allegedly said he's made his money and now wants to go for the cup.

If he wants a Cup he should look at the recent history of generational players and realize that Cups follow the Gretzkys, Lemiuexs, and Crosby’s of the League. We got McDavid PLUS Nurse plus Draisaitl. I hope Hall is smart enough to see this and becomes that last missing piece.

 

[Ritchie Valens]

That sounded like a large belch from Stauffer.

He must be trying to outdo Terry now as wel too.

 

[EchoesoftheEighties]

Stauffer had a Nicholson burger before he went on air

My sources can confirm

 

[Oilhawks]

He must be trying to outdo Terry now as wel too.

The next step is starting to sound like Orson Welles playing Unicron in the Transformers animated movie

 

[TheNumber4]

This past season is really hard to judge for the AHL as competition has plummeted. Some teams were playing with half their roster as almost ECHL level players too. That and the limited teams they played against. Him and Skinner had good years but it's hard to tell how much of that was just quality of competition and how much of it was them

Interesting. Bensons numbers may very well have be juiced then. Still if we lose hum, I wish he woulda got more of a look. But it’s possible the Oilers already know what they have there.

 

[GOilers88]

There have been many players in the present and past that put up gaudy AHL numbers that have no business in the NHL.

Yeah but until they get a fair shake you'll never know. Benson has absolutely earned that.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

I see a guy who is more skilled, more potential and on a better contract than Kassian. there is no sane case to keep Kassian protected over him, Seattle might not even him but would sure as hell take Benson.

he has literally played 7 NHLs in a depth role and you're writing off everything about Benson that makes him a good player

At least Kassian can skate.

 

[KlefDown]

At least Kassian can skate.

.....

 

[Ritchie Valens]

I remember when Anton Lander would dominate the AHL.....

Robbie Schremp would put up some numbers in the AHL too but couldn't stick in the NHL.