Series Talk: Leafs vs Bruins - 'ah shit here we go again' edition -- Full schedule post #933

[Gary Nylund]

Pretty sure they already have all that in place... it has been discussed in the past, and even specific to Marner.

I believe we have 2.

Really? Do you guys by any chance have a link to something I can read about this? This is so interesting to me as I've been thinking about it for years (and I haven't seen anything posted here about this). Why don't they have someone to work with him? Or maybe they have, and we just don't know about it but if that's the case, why isn't it working? It's just fascinating to me because I've said a few times that one way to be a much better team in the playoffs is to get Marner to be the best version of himself.

Same goes for a media coach. I've wondered do they not have someone helping him with how to address the media? Or maybe they do and the kid just doesn't understand what they're telling him? I mean obviously that doesn't matter at all compared to what he does on the ice but still, it's interesting to ponder.

Shouldn’t the talent advantage the Leafs have somewhat negate the goalie advantage Boston has? Instead they are making Swayman look like the best goalie in the league right now.

But that's our specialty, making opposing goalies looking like Vezina winners. It's so damn frustrating and even more frustrating is our PP, just mind boggling how this seems to be such a huge problem for us every year in the playoffs.

 

[Jozay]

Shouldn’t the talent advantage the Leafs have somewhat negate the goalie advantage Boston has? Instead they are making Swayman look like the best goalie in the league right now.

The Leafs dont have much of a talent advantage with Nylander out and Marner playing like this.

 

[Gary Nylund]

The Leafs dont have much of a talent advantage with Nylander out and Marner playing like this.

True enough. And I think we should all have learned by now that talent is only a small part of the equation. We're a team that is all too often less than the sum of it's parts in the playoffs.

 

[wingman75]

Really? Do you guys by any chance have a link to something I can read about this? This is so interesting to me as I've been thinking about it for years (and I haven't seen anything posted here about this). Why don't they have someone to work with him? Or maybe they have, and we just don't know about it but if that's the case, why isn't it working? It's just fascinating to me because I've said a few times that one way to be a much better team in the playoffs is to get Marner to be the best version of himself.

Same goes for a media coach. I've wondered do they not have someone helping him with how to address the media? Or maybe they do and the kid just doesn't understand what they're telling him? I mean obviously that doesn't matter at all compared to what he does on the ice but still, it's interesting to ponder.

I don't have any info on a media coach, but I am sure they have one of those as well.

If you don't have an Athletic sub search the internet for paywall bypass. This article is from a while ago, so the people could have changed, but what they do would not.

Meet Dr. Meg Popovic: The woman charged with helping the Maple Leafs’ mental well-being

Dr. Meg Popovic has become a vital part of the Maple Leafs by being there as a sounding board for players and staff alike.

theathletic.com

https://themedium.ca/the-mental-mastery-of-the-maple-leafs/

New peak performance coach helps Leafs sharpen mental game - TSN.ca

Toronto Maple Leafs players, coaches and management bemoaned a lack of killer instinct following their playoff collapse against the Montreal Canadiens last season. Enter life coach, motivational speaker and executive consultant Greg Harden who is tasked with helping everyone in the organization...

www.tsn.ca

 

[Gary Nylund]

I don't have any info on a media coach, but I am sure they have one of those as well.

If you don't have an Athletic sub search the internet for paywall bypass. This article is from a while ago, so the people could have changed, but what they do would not.

Meet Dr. Meg Popovic: The woman charged with helping the Maple Leafs’ mental well-being

Dr. Meg Popovic has become a vital part of the Maple Leafs by being there as a sounding board for players and staff alike.

theathletic.com

https://themedium.ca/the-mental-mastery-of-the-maple-leafs/

New peak performance coach helps Leafs sharpen mental game - TSN.ca

Toronto Maple Leafs players, coaches and management bemoaned a lack of killer instinct following their playoff collapse against the Montreal Canadiens last season. Enter life coach, motivational speaker and executive consultant Greg Harden who is tasked with helping everyone in the organization...

www.tsn.ca

That's interesting, thanks! I've never heard of paywall bypass before, I'll look into it later when I have more time. But thanks again, I'm surprised that I've never seen anyone post any information about this before.

 

[sxvnert]

Time to go back to basics on PP1:

Bert-Knies
Nylander ----------------- Matthews
Rielly
​

Bert and Knies crowd the net/tip rebounds, Nylander and Matthews blast pucks/pass, Rielly gives it Nylander/Matthews or wrists it on net for the rebound. Keep it simple.

PP2:

Tarvares
|
Robertson
Marner --------------- Domi
Lily​

 

[Clark4Ever]

The Leafs dont have much of a talent advantage with Nylander out and Marner playing like this.

This is true, but hopefully that will change on Saturday on both counts.

 

[Menzinger]

Might as well completely revamp the pp before Saturday. Betting on the current status quo to suddenly change doesn't seem like a great bet

 

[BodaciousBeefBazooka]

We aren’t winning this series our team needs a culture change. If our primary strength is scoring goals yet Boston is blocking most of our shots, Boston goalie standing on his head yet Boston is still out scoring us in the series its a huge red flag. Especially when we can’t capitalize on a power play yet we are suppose to have one of the best forward groups. Boston has scored like 11 goals on us across 3 games Toronto has scored 6.

 

[Gallagbi]

If they make changes, I'd go

Marner as low fwd, either Domi/Nylander high LW. Keep Matthews and Tavares where they are

 

[PromisedLand]

hey look..... am I the only one thinking wtf keefe



ok there Keefer....

 

[ThrowDemTongs]

How tf you gonna win a series when there's a 50% chance you get scored on on the penalty kill? Is this fixable? Discuss.

 

[sxvnert]

Hilarious that Bruins fans think the leafs/toronto get some sort of advantage in calls & rules. Bruins fans reaching levels of delusion never thought possible.

 

[Gary Nylund]

Might as well completely revamp the pp before Saturday. Betting on the current status quo to suddenly change doesn't seem like a great bet

Should have tried something else weeks ago. The ineptitude of our PP is so frustrating that I don't even know how to put it into words. So sick of Keefe.

 

[MSZ]

Hilarious that Bruins fans think the leafs/toronto get some sort of advantage in calls & rules. Bruins fans reaching levels of delusion never thought possible.

Yeah right.

 

[Rare Jewel]

Typically, you're not looking to check the goalie, Sheldon...

 

[Evilhomer]

How tf you gonna win a series when there's a 50% chance you get scored on on the penalty kill? Is this fixable? Discuss.

They will win this series even with the special teams as they are, but can they beat a team like Carolina, literally the best special teams team in the league, with these special teams? The Leafs better hope that the Rangers can eliminate Carolina (Pesce being out will be an issue for the Hurricanes).

 

[AvroArrow]

Call me crazy but maybe, just maybe, the 2 guys that have excelled with Matthews and been great at 5 on 5, should be playing with him on the powerplay, when the PP is at 9% ? I dunno though i'm just an average dude, but I feel like that would be a logical move, when the special teams are struggling this bad, just maybe, put 3 guys out there who have proven to have great chemistry ?

Matthews, Domi, Bert are playing very well 5 on 5, why not try them on PP1 when it's been complete dog shit so far ? Am i nuts ? Yes, but am I nuts for suggesting this ?

 

[kevsh]

Matthews, Domi, Bert are playing very well 5 on 5, why not try them on PP1 when it's been complete dog shit so far ?

Yep. Suggested this very thing a couple of weeks ago.

The only thing I can think of (besides him just being a bad coach) is that Keefe is afraid of a locker room revolt if he takes anyone (read: Tavares, Marner) off PP1.

 

[Dayjobdave]

Call me crazy but maybe, just maybe, the 2 guys that have excelled with Matthews and been great at 5 on 5, should be playing with him on the powerplay, when the PP is at 9% ? I dunno though i'm just an average dude, but I feel like that would be a logical move, when the special teams are struggling this bad, just maybe, put 3 guys out there who have proven to have great chemistry ?

Matthews, Domi, Bert are playing very well 5 on 5, why not try them on PP1 when it's been complete dog shit so far ? Am i nuts ? Yes, but am I nuts for suggesting this ?

It just seems so obvious they should do something different that hasn't been scouted to death as well.

Maybe the new coaching staff will try it at training camp.

 

[Aashir Mallik]

They will win this series even with the special teams as they are, but can they beat a team like Carolina, literally the best special teams team in the league, with these special teams? The Leafs better hope that the Rangers can eliminate Carolina (Pesce being out will be an issue for the Hurricanes).

For being a fan of the Toronto maple leafs you look into the future way too much

There’s no guarantee they win this series, in fact it’s probably more likely they will lose. This series is playing out almost identical to the 2018 and 2019 series of the past. The leafs lost both of them. Players have changed on both sides, but the guys who’ve been here the entire time have looked like they always have and the others aren’t doing anything else. I don’t see what the difference is from then and now

 

[Suntouchable13]

For being a fan of the Toronto maple leafs you look into the future way too much

There’s no guarantee they win this series, in fact it’s probably more likely they will lose. This series is playing out almost identical to the 2018 and 2019 series of the past. The leafs lost both of them. Players have changed on both sides, but the guys who’ve been here the entire time have looked like they always have and the others aren’t doing anything else. I don’t see what the difference is from then and now

Yes, and it’s very sad. Boston has lost Krejci, Bergeron, Chara, Rask, and they are still somehow better than Toronto. Very sad.

 

[Aashir Mallik]

Yes, and it’s very sad. Boston has lost Krejci, Bergeron, Chara, Rask, and they are still somehow better than Toronto. Very sad.

Whether it’s Andersen or Samsonov, they are worse than the guy on the other side

Whether it’s JT-Marner-Matthews-Johnsson-Rielly or JT-Marner-Matthews-Bertuzzi-Rielly the pp is going to suck when we need it

Whether it’s Kapanen/Hyman/Marner/Brown/ or Marner/Kampf/Holmberg/Jarnkrok the pk can’t go over kill a penalty to save its life

Names have changed sure, but plays, tendencies, finishing, excuses have not

 

[Gallagbi]

Should have tried something else weeks ago. The ineptitude of our PP is so frustrating that I don't even know how to put it into words. So sick of Keefe.

We've tried 3-4 different looks over this dry spell and the whole board lost their mind when Nylander went to PP2 last year.

I'm fine if we shuffle things again and revamp our plan, but there have been different looks

 

[Evilhomer]

For being a fan of the Toronto maple leafs you look into the future way too much

There’s no guarantee they win this series, in fact it’s probably more likely they will lose. This series is playing out almost identical to the 2018 and 2019 series of the past. The leafs lost both of them. Players have changed on both sides, but the guys who’ve been here the entire time have looked like they always have and the others aren’t doing anything else. I don’t see what the difference is from then and now

The Leafs have outplayed Boston for most of the series, including last night's game. As that trend continues, I expect the goals to come for the Leafs, especially with Nylander back in the lineup.