Post-Game Talk: Leafs lose 4-2

[saffronleaf]

I am not a line guy... but I would get Marner off PP1 for starters. Let him and Nylander run PP2. Put Domi on PP1 and see how it goes. Can't be worse.

i'd bump marner to PP3

 

[34]

He was better, but I think our breakdowns and inability to score are the difference.. could argue he (Swayman) is the reason for that.

Goal 3 for Boston is a complete breakdown where the Boston player is able to receive the pass, set their feet, and get behind the shot. Add to that the comedic things the Leafs do, like Matthews knocking Samsonov's stick out of his hands just before...

Our guys NEVER get that kind of time or clean look, and even if they do they miss the net or as you say, Swayman makes the save.

I do not see any road that leads to the Leafs winning this series now. Samsonov is just not it.

 

[JamieG19]

Yep, let's try the same personnel and strategy for ten straight seasons so they can go to the golf course just before April 30th every year.

What I'm saying is it will be the same pattern. Teams don't move on from star players because of a playoff loss. Immediately after, there's anger and people say there needs to be changes. Then as a few days pass, the thinking is they can't possibly not give xyz star the contract they want and must sign them. And that quickly becomes the popular thinking. There were people who after the loss didn't want them to sign Auston or at least play hardball. Within a few days, popular thinking was must get him signed. It will be the same with Mitch.

 

[TMLegend]

Sadly u can complain all u want about defence or goaltending every year but when you big dogs don’t show up and put the puck in the net u ain’t going anywhere.
Our team is all skill guys and our problem every year is offended so..

It’s cool when u watch Colorado and mckinnon shows he’s too good, watch Edmonton and McDavid and draisatl are too good, watch Tampa and kucherov shows he’s too good even in hard games.

Leafs fans do not know that feeling!!!

Hard to blame the goaltending when they've been dumpster diving and neglecting the position for years. Like the saying goes you get what you pay for.

The Leafs have never had a significant goaltending advantage on paper in any series they've played in the Matthews era.

 

[saffronleaf]

How is Edmonton able to score on the PP with their eyes closed game after game and we struggle to get a single SOG on some PPs
The special teams is a f***ing joke. Whoever is in charge of that needs to get canned
All this star power and they are f***ing trash on the powerplay

shouldnta traded away Yman. with FOUR goals he singlehandedly has more goals than the Big Four COMBINED will EVER score this playoffs

 

[mcleex]

In fairness....the Kings suck. They're trash. Drew Doughty plays half the game and he was washed up years and years ago

I don't think he's washed up. He'd probably be our best defenseman if he played on our team. Also he has 2 Stanley Cups

 

[wingman75]

I do not see any road that leads to the Leafs winning this series now. Samsonov is just not it.

Even if he was, who is going to score? He was great in game 2, mediocre in games 1 and 3. Our team makes so many dumb mistakes, he needs to cover up for more of those so we can try to squeak out a third goal.

I don't see the Leafs winning this series because our best players are not consistently impactful.

 

[dynasty67]

Well like I said. You can’t win anything with samsonov. He is just brutal. How and why leafs have yet to figure out without a goalie no chance. We ditched Freddy for way less than samsonov.

You know we took goalie Ian Scot one pick before Boston took Swayman??

Swayman single handed has been the series best player by far. Has won 2 games single handed.

Now that's very depressing.

 

[wingman75]

i'd bump marner to PP3

Heh. I mean, maybe only having 30 seconds would pump some effin urgency into his shambled brain.

 

[saffronleaf]

To which the Leafs probably reply with "yeah you are right".

marner: we don't pay attention to what any of you have to say. you all are just trying to put shambles in my brain. we believe in each other in this room. we don't care about any of you. blah blah blah

 

[Evilhomer]

You said the Leafs were going to get swept, then acted like the team was great, and now you're back to this, so sorry if I don't take your opinion seriously. It's 2-1.

Don't worry, after Saturday the Cup parade will be back on schedule.

 

[PromisedLand]

Bostons Captain kicked our ass tonight, unlike our illustrious captain who did nothing

Marchand at 35 yrs of age skates faster than Tavares and Marner

6.125 AAV too

 

[JamieG19]

i'd bump marner to PP3

I will say with the last power play the Leafs had, I would have liked to have seen Domi out there for it. And the fact that PP#1 plays the entire 2 mins makes it worse that no one else gets a chance. But Mitch and Auston don't like to come off during a PP and that's not a fight Keefe wants to have so he keeps them happy.

 

[saffronleaf]

what i love about JT is that he's like 50 and still learning lessons every year. a real life long learner. his love of learning is admirable

 

[TheGreenTBer]

What I'm saying is it will be the same pattern. Teams don't move on from star players because of a playoff loss. Immediately after, there's anger and people say there needs to be changes. Then as a few days pass, the thinking is they can't possibly not give xyz star the contract they want and must sign them. And that quickly becomes the popular thinking. There were people who after the loss didn't want them to sign Auston or at least play hardball. Within a few days, popular thinking was must get him signed. It will be the same with Mitch.

This is not even close to being about one single playoff loss and you know that.

 

[Divine]

Leafs pay premium AAV for offense to just 4 forwards. Next season it will be 11+ AAV for 4 forwards

And here is teh record:



Goaltending is definitely something that should be addressed but so is offensive production, defense and team structure/balance

forward heavy cap allocation has done nothing but be an absolute knife in the back of the Leafs. And it starts with ShanaCON

The problem is they're a direct result of each other.

When your goaltending sucks you have to have everyone back and you sacrifice offense. Look at Boston, the reason they have so many breakaways is because their players don't all collapse back because they trust their goaltender to make saves.

If Edmundson didn't block that shot today, it would have went in the net. If Matthews wasn't standing behind Samsonov last game, Boston would have tied the game. The players don't trust the goalie and have to try and block every shot.

 

[Rob Brown]

Marchand at 35 yrs of age skates faster than Tavares and Marner

6.125 AAV too

Tavares and Marchand are more or less the same age at this point lol. Not like Marchand is significantly older.

 

[kevsh]

Someone once said defense and goaltending win the playoffs and for 8 years the Leafs have insisted they don't need any of that to win and to prove it they'll do the opposite by focusing on a few highly-paid forwards to carry the team.

And for 8 years they done nothing but lose.

Maybe this Summer it's time to accept defeat, and rebuild the roster starting from the net out?

 

[Gallagbi]

This. Everything is reactionary.
When the Leafs lost out last year, for about 24 hours there were calls to break up the Core 4.

A few days later the popular thinking was it would be insane to break up the Core 4 and bring them all back for another kick at the can.

Nobody thought it was insane last summer

 

[MilkofthePoppy]

Could have kept both Hyman and Kadri instead of Tavares

That contract crippled us and the core has peaked at a 1st round win

I will say this until my dying day... The way this organization and specifically boy wonder treated Kadri was despicable. A real team would have rallied around Kadri's actions, not made him a scapegoat. Kadri telling his detractors to kiss his ass was chefs kiss. God bless him... I am looking forward to reading his book. Easily my favorite Leaf right up there with Tucks and Wendel.

 

[Nineteen67]

even as a UFA I don’t think there will be a GM in the league that pays him what he wants. He is not a $12M player imo.

He may not get 12 but you never know.

 

[JamieG19]

I don't think he's washed up. He'd probably be our best defenseman if he played on our team. Also he has 2 Stanley Cups

10 and 12 years ago......

 

[Rob Brown]

I will say this until my dying day... The way this organization and specifically boy wonder treated Kadri was despicable. A real team would have rallied around Kadri's actions, not made him a scapegoat. Kadri telling his detractors to kiss his ass was chefs kiss. God bless him... I am looking forward to reading his book. Easily my favorite Leaf right up there with Tucks and Wendel

I like Naz too but he was suspended three playoffs in a row if you count his first season with Colorado. Let's not act like he didn't also f*** up both series against Boston in 2018 and 2019.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

Nobody thought it was insane last summer

Bingo.

Even if we win this series we are not winning the Cup with this goaltending, this D and this lack of depth. Something's gotta give.

 

[Gabriel426]

This is really a game of inches. If you add all the inches together, it is the difference between winning and losing.
If AM didn’t hit that post, the game would had been completely different.
A few inches lower, JT would had the opening goal.
A few inches higher, Marchand would not had score the GWG.

Personally, emotion got better of the Leafs tonight. They got way too excited chasing the big hits, sending messages when they took the lead.
And tied the game.

They need to learn that they can beat Bruins by playing their game.
Most importantly, they need to score on their PP.
we can blame goaltending or refs or Calle being Kerfoot 2.0(can’t score), but you can’t go 0-3 in PP esp when the game was tied and getting a penalty on the PP. If they only score once and didn’t take that penalty, that would be the game.

I am disappointed they lost today as it was a game they could had won but they didn’t lose this game themselves as much as Bruins was more clutch.
Gotta give credits to the Bruins for just being clutch.