Confirmed with Link: Kevin Hayes signed: (2 years/$2.6m)

[Lindberg Cheese]

Wiz wouldn't be an awful gamble

You beat me to the Wiz

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Would have preferred 3-4 years, but this is a great value. Now if only we could dump Nash's $7.8M or Girardi/Staal's $5.5M/5.7M we'd have some room to buy a great defenseman or two.

Unfortunately, we're prob looking at flipping Nash for a RHD and then flipping Klien for a F.

 

[darko]

You have 2 years to prove yourself Kevin.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

2.6 per year ? I was hoping for less given the off year but let's see what the kid can do

Thats what I thought. Was hoping for less than 2.5. But a couple hundred grand maybe worth it considering it'll make him feel worthy within the team structure. It counts for something knowing he's older and makes relatively the same as JT, not less.

Definitely looking for more from Hayes. He needs to hit the gym, get nasty and come prepared. None of this lackadaisical **** this year. Start becoming more of a pro and consistently force plays like this every game:

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Wiz wouldn't be an awful gamble

Take a flyer on Wiz if cheap?

Not a bad idea.

I think we have to get rid of some of these DFD though.

There are too many of them. Staal, Girardi, Klein, Holden, McIlrath. Those are five DFD of our 7. Too many. Are we trying to build an offensive line or an NHL defense? Gotta get rid of some of them. Klein makes the most sense to consider trading, as his trade value is probably the highest its been so far in his career. Trading Klein, and signing Wisniewski could make some sense.

 

[Inferno]

are we sure its per year?

just wondering.

good deal regardless. I prefer the bridge deal than the long term crap people give out like candy.

 

[Reijo29]

are we sure its per year?

just wondering.

good deal regardless. I prefer the bridge deal than the long term crap people give out like candy.

Of course it's per year. What did you think he's getting 1.3 per season? C'mon.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Also - I want to see Hayes solidify himself into a position this year.

Its nice to have the flexibility but I think its important for his growth now that they give him a set position and he stays at it. I feel his game is much better suited for the wing. Theres a lot less responsibility and the position works to his strengths more.

 

[Beacon]

Somewhere between $4-4.5M I believe.

Edit:
Capgeek has them with ~$4.3M without Skjei or Buch on the roster, but including Clendening.

Had Stamkos hit the UFA market, we could've signed him so long as we traded away Stepan, which couldn't have been hard given his age and production. Never got the chance.

 

[darko]

Also - I want to see Hayes solidify himself into a position this year.

Its nice to have the flexibility but I think its important for his growth now that they give him a set position and he stays at it. I feel his game is much better suited for the wing. Theres a lot less responsibility and the position works to his strengths more.

He looks lost on the wing. C all the way IMO. Hopefully he can get better on the draws.

 

[eco's bones]

Hayes did quite a bit better than I thought he would. But....everybody really important is signed now and we have some cap space.

i wouldn't waste it on Wisniewski. Too many injuries and he's a hothead. He's not the best d-man out there right now--that's Luke Schenn. Signing either or them though is most likely is going to come at the expense of McIlrath. Dylan needs to play. Rangers have options and they can bank it for now.

Honestly if I was going to go after a player right now it would be Matt Cullen 1yr. and $1 mil. He's 39 but he still has great wheels and in the right role he showed last year with the Penguins that he can be damned effective. Another pk'er besides.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

are we sure its per year?

just wondering.

good deal regardless. I prefer the bridge deal than the long term crap people give out like candy.

Especially for Hayes who needs to prove himself - though if he becomes a force, they may look back at this point and regret that they couldn't get him for longer - and cheaper - considering his play last season. But im sure the Hayes camp is good with 2 years, for that reason. Hes got a lot to prove to himself, the team and the league if he wants to stick around and get paid.

 

[darko]

Hayes did quite a bit better than I thought he would. But....everybody really important is signed now and we have some cap space.

i wouldn't waste it on Wisniewski. Too many injuries and he's a hothead. He's not the best d-man out there right now--that's Luke Schenn. Signing either or them though is most likely is going to come at the expense of McIlrath. Dylan needs to play. Rangers have options and they can bank it for now.

Honestly if I was going to go after a player right now it would be Matt Cullen 1yr. and $1 mil. He's 39 but he still has great wheels and in the right role he showed last year with the Penguins that he can be damned effective. Another pk'er besides.

Need a PMD.

 

[eco's bones]

Need a PMD.

He has a great shot. Not necessarily a top of the line puck mover though. He's missed games with injuries 17 times in 10 NHL seasons including the entirety of last season and he's 32-33 years old. He's not a guy I'd invest in----but if we did definitely for cheap and no multi-year--not with his age and injury history.

 

[bobbop]

Be mindful that Wisnewski can sign an incentive contract since he missed virtually all of last season. Some good upside here.

Any while I'm thinking of it...anyone for giving Brandon Prust a PTO? (and no doubt moving Taylor Glass)

 

[JDs Straight Shot]

Need a PMD.

Orlov is a lefty but plays on the right, I wonder if Caps would be willing to move him

 

[FLYLine27*]

Very happy with this deal as well. Expecting him to put up around 45 points next season, and hopefully 50+ the season after.

 

[FLYLine27*]

Be mindful that Wisnewski can sign an incentive contract since he missed virtually all of last season. Some good upside here.

Any while I'm thinking of it...anyone for giving Brandon Prust a PTO? (and no doubt moving Taylor Glass)

After what he did to Stepan? He can **** off.

 

[eco's bones]

Be mindful that Wisnewski can sign an incentive contract since he missed virtually all of last season. Some good upside here.

Any while I'm thinking of it...anyone for giving Brandon Prust a PTO? (and no doubt moving Taylor Glass)

Keep in mind that he's also coming off a torn ACL--an injury that even if a player comes back and plays after 9 months or a year often effects that player for at least several more additional months and again he's not exactly a young guy.

On Prust? No--he's washed up. And if he continued to play the kind of game he's known for he's going to get hurt.

 

[GAGLine]

Not a bad idea.

I think we have to get rid of some of these DFD though.

There are too many of them. Staal, Girardi, Klein, Holden, McIlrath. Those are five DFD of our 7. Too many. Are we trying to build an offensive line or an NHL defense? Gotta get rid of some of them. Klein makes the most sense to consider trading, as his trade value is probably the highest its been so far in his career. Trading Klein, and signing Wisniewski could make some sense.

Klein will be traded at some point. There's no reason not to. Staal and Girardi will be gone at some point too, but getting rid of them will be a lot harder. Holden will be exposed in the expansion draft and will be gone within 2 years.

It will take some time, but if they do it right, the whole team should be in much better shape by this time in 2018.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

Hayes did quite a bit better than I thought he would. But....everybody really important is signed now and we have some cap space.

i wouldn't waste it on Wisniewski. Too many injuries and he's a hothead. He's not the best d-man out there right now--that's Luke Schenn. Signing either or them though is most likely is going to come at the expense of McIlrath. Dylan needs to play. Rangers have options and they can bank it for now.

Honestly if I was going to go after a player right now it would be Matt Cullen 1yr. and $1 mil. He's 39 but he still has great wheels and in the right role he showed last year with the Penguins that he can be damned effective. Another pk'er besides.

They already have a ton of bottom 6 players on the roster though. Holdovers like Lindberg, Fast, Glass, Hrivik (Hayes if you count him as bottom 6) and new additions like Grabner, Gerbe, Jooris. Not really much space or any reason to add another bottom 6 player.

Cullen is probably either going to play another year with the Penguins or retire.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

Happy with this deal. Why anyone would prefer a longer term deal for a guy who had the problems Hayes did last season is beyond me. Time to prove himself.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Klein will be traded at some point. There's no reason not to. Staal and Girardi will be gone at some point too, but getting rid of them will be a lot harder. Holden will be exposed in the expansion draft and will be gone within 2 years.

It will take some time, but if they do it right, the whole team should be in much better shape by this time in 2018.

I agree with what you are saying, but if the Rangers want to be competitive this season, I don't think this defense has the potential to be good enough this season. I think out of those 7D, you could have a pretty good group of players in a vacuum, if players play to their potential, but its not a vacuum. The problem of this defense will probably be the lack of points, the lack of skating and the lack of puck moving.

Moving players helps, but we also need to add PMD to this defense. It can't just be getting rid of one or two players. Those players will probably be gone eventually, and McIlrath might be as well, but until the Rangers have some balance between offense and defense with the group of defenseman, the team will struggle.

 

[Edge]

There's still a lot of upside to like with Hayes, especially at this point in his career.

He has a lot to prove, but I'm not as down on him as some--- not after only two years in the league.

 

[silverfish]

Happy with this deal. Why anyone would prefer a longer term deal for a guy who had the problems Hayes did last season is beyond me. Time to prove himself.

Same could be said for Miller. People wanted him locked up after one-year that was as good as Hayes's sophomore slump.