Northern Dancer
The future ain't what it used to be.
if there was no salary retention, and the pick wasn't lottery protected I would be fine with the deal.
If wishes were horses, beggers might ride.
if there was no salary retention, and the pick wasn't lottery protected I would be fine with the deal.
I think it's a bit premature to assume the Pens will be buying out Kessel. He had a bit of a codl start on the season, but seems to be producing now.
On a serious note, Pens will never buy out Kessel.
Never say never.
Kessel may not look so pretty in 4-5 years. Plus, the Pens will have to do SOMETHING eventually. They basically have no cap, and no prospects.... Something will have to give if they are not contenders with in 2-3 years.
I like Kapanen, I understand the pick protection...but the salary retention was just a terrible pill to swallow. A team can only retain salary on 3 players at a time, and we're already retaining some pathetic amount on the Gunnerson deal (what an idiotic move that was by Nonis).
That means we'll have trouble retaining on Lupul and Bozak, who would would have been perfect retention candidates because of their few remaining years and relatively large contracts, thus possibly returning us significant value on those moves. Without said retention, we won't get much, if anything, for either.
I predicted Kessel would get 60 pts this year (would not hit 70), with maybe 30 goals. I took some flak on that, but so far, that is about his pace.
I was upset we didn't get DP, but KK, Harrington, and the 1st was well worth it IMO. I really could see Kessel going all O'Dog when he hits 30.
KK is very skilled, and I have no trouble seeing him producing 20 goals and 50ish points for the Leafs in a couple years. Add in Harrington, who will be in his early 20s, along with the 2016 1st (Hopefully) and I think the Leafs Won this deal hands down.
Just will take 3-4 years for everyone to agree on that
I like Kapanen, I understand the pick protection...but the salary retention was just a terrible pill to swallow. A team can only retain salary on 3 players at a time, and we're already retaining some pathetic amount on the Gunnerson deal (what an idiotic move that was by Nonis).
That means we'll have trouble retaining on Lupul and Bozak, who would would have been perfect retention candidates because of their few remaining years and relatively large contracts, thus possibly returning us significant value on those moves. Without said retention, we won't get much, if anything, for either.
Nonis accepting the retention was the ultimate proof that he was the most stupid GM in Leafs History, that's cemented. Can you imagine if this guy had 4yrs? Just wow
Unless there's something I don't know, can't we just retain salary on Lupul and Bozak starting from next summer once Gunnarsson comes off the books? A team can still have 2 years of control of Lupes/Bozak.
We have a rich history of stupid GMs, but retaining 200K (300K?) for 3 bloody years for a player who was not overpaid to begin with not only makes me question Nonis' intelligence as a GM but as a human being.
Can you imagine the picks haul we could get if we retained 2.6 mil on Bozak and/or Lupul towards the deadline?
Sure, but that means we'd have to wait until the off-season to trade them, delaying/reducing the return.
And circling back to Kessel, between their retention and his, we wouldn't be able to retain on anyone else (ie Bernier) for several years.