Proposal: Kadri for Parayko

[rumrokh]

Not that I'm necessarily in favor of this move, but you have to consider how much Nylander improves the Blues current and future outlook down the middle. Maybe he's more of a RW right now, but he'd be their best Center prospect for the future by a significant margin. Honestly he could take Lehtera's spot in the Top 6 right now and it'd help tremendously, even if he's not 100% ready for full-time center responsibilities.

It's a big assumption that he projects as a center and would improve the Blues over the next few years over simply keeping Parayko. I'm in favor of any deal that improves the team, but it can't be such a gamble.

Look at the Johansen-Jones trade. Johansen was WAY more proven than Nylander is and absolutely established as a center. Nashville needed a center, but getting that center didn't actually make them better. There's a very real possibility that the Blues acquire their coveted center, but don't get better because of what they have to give up. To add the risk that the player in question is a rookie who plays wing...it's too much to me. At the very least it's too much for me to say, with confidence, "This makes the Blues better." You NEED to be able to say that if you're trading someone like Parayko.

 

[nonfactor]

Kadri continues to be underrated I see.

He is great defensively, great offensively when given the proper linemates, plays a gritty game, and is on a steal of a contract for 5 more years in his prime. Who wouldn't want that type of center on their team?

Parayko seems fair but management/coaching loves Kadri so doubt it gets done.

And leafs fans seem to overrate Kadri......He alone wont get you Parayko.

 

[TLEH]

Top 10? LOL. Not even in the top 2 on the Blues.

You think he's less valuable than an 8 mil tarasenko ??

 

[The_Chosen_One]

And leafs fans seem to overrate Kadri......He alone wont get you Parayko.

How about Kadri, Kapanen and a first for Parayko? I think he's going to develop into an elite, all-round defenseman.

 

[stl76]

How about Kadri, Kapanen and a first for Parayko? I think he's going to develop into an elite, all-round defenseman.

NO!

FFS can this thread please just die already...

 

[DopeyFish]

How about Kadri, Kapanen and a first for Parayko? I think he's going to develop into an elite, all-round defenseman.

What an overpayment

 

[Leafin]

St Louis shouldn't be moving Parayko with Shattenkirk likely leaving in the summer.

I'd love to have him on the Leafs but wouldn't want to pay the high price. AND even with a high price i don't think its a move St Louis makes.

Leafs should keep going forward with a slow build. Plenty of time with their team being really young. Hopefully we can draft our own "Parayko" and slot him in the top 4.

 

[Davimir Tarablad]

What an overpayment

If that's the case, then Stastny, Barbashev, and a first for Rielly is an overpayment from the Blues.

Parayko is not available whatsoever. Go shopping elsewhere

 

[zeke]

The Parayko love is weird imo.

Not that young, not that good offensively, not that good defensively, not that good a possession player despite getting soft usage, not even all that consistent a physical presence.

 

[Dbrownss]

NO!

FFS can this thread please just die already...

This is what I want to do to this thread

The Parayko love is weird imo.

Not that young, not that good offensively, not that good defensively, not that good a possession player despite getting soft usage, not even all that consistent a physical presence.

good, people should stop asking for him then

 

[zeke]

or maybe the blues should capitalize on his trade value while he's still a shiny new (but not that young) toy.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

The Parayko love is weird imo.

Not that young, not that good offensively, not that good defensively, not that good a possession player despite getting soft usage, not even all that consistent a physical presence.

I've been impressed by him every time that I've watched him play Edmonton. He is huge, very strong, has a big time booming shot, shoots right and moves well for a big man.

Kadri is a useful player but he does not return Parayko.

 

[57special]

or maybe the blues should capitalize on his trade value while he's still a shiny new (but not that young) toy.

Sounds like you don't watch him play much. He's huge, mobile, and talented.

 

[bossram]

The Parayko love is weird imo.

Not that young, not that good offensively, not that good defensively, not that good a possession player despite getting soft usage, not even all that consistent a physical presence.

You clearly have no idea.

He's 23. He already puts up elite suppression results. His even-strength scoring is upper echelon among defenseman. He's top-pair defenseman by any measure. He's the real deal.

 

[mikeyp24]

or maybe the blues should capitalize on his trade value while he's still a shiny new (but not that young) toy.

I don't think getting a player Kadri caliber would be capitalizing that's selling low. Capitalizing is getting Draisaitl (not claiming either side should donor makes sense etc) not a top end 3C.

 

[skilles]

St Louis shouldn't be moving Parayko with Shattenkirk likely leaving in the summer.

I'd love to have him on the Leafs but wouldn't want to pay the high price. AND even with a high price i don't think its a move St Louis makes.

Leafs should keep going forward with a slow build. Plenty of time with their team being really young. Hopefully we can draft our own "Parayko" and slot him in the top 4.

I would not trade Parayko but I'm curious how would trading a young stud for another young stud at a different position lead to the Leafs not going forward with a slow build?

 

[Leafin]

I would not trade Parayko but I'm curious how would trading a young stud for another young stud at a different position lead to the Leafs not going forward with a slow build?

Leafs shouldn't be moving any of Nylander, Marner or Matthews. They need to add to that core.

 

[Halla]

I would not trade Parayko but I'm curious how would trading a young stud for another young stud at a different position lead to the Leafs not going forward with a slow build?

trading 19-20 year olds you have drafted and developed isnt exactly staying the course. leafs need to see what they have with rielly,gardiner,zaitsev,carrick,nielsen and dermott. I think they pick around 10th this year which means they likely can have any dman not named liljegren. Hague,Valimaki and Foote are all having good years

 

[Halla]

If that's the case, then Stastny, Barbashev, and a first for Rielly is an overpayment from the Blues.

Parayko is not available whatsoever. Go shopping elsewhere

no one here is Lou Lamoriello....

 

[clunk]

The same people that underrate Parayko are the same people who underrate Tanev.. Who woulda knew.

 

[sfvega]

The Parayko love is weird imo.

Not that young, not that good offensively, not that good defensively, not that good a possession player despite getting soft usage, not even all that consistent a physical presence.

I think anime is pretty weird myself, but I think it would probably be less weird if I ever watched it. The same can likely be said for you and the Parayko love.

 

[Liferleafer]

The same people that underrate Parayko are the same people who underrate Tanev.. Who woulda knew.

I like Tanev...but i would take Parayko 10 times out of 10.

Plus, there are many of us that know the OP is under valuiing Parayko, but we just don't want to deal our good young core....we are early in the rebuild, no need to make a move like that.

 

[Captain Creampuff]

The Parayko love is weird imo.

Not that young, not that good offensively, not that good defensively, not that good a possession player despite getting soft usage, not even all that consistent a physical presence.

Haha what?

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

The Parayko love is weird imo.

Not that young, not that good offensively, not that good defensively, not that good a possession player despite getting soft usage, not even all that consistent a physical presence.

Hes #55....

just incase you've been watching someone else...

anyways,

-Hes 23 which is pretty damn young to me
-has 50 points in his first 119 NHL games as a dman(which is better than a lot of other dmen in same time frame that are considered good offensive dmen)
-on pace for over 200 shot on goal this year(had 165 last year as a rookie dman)
-is a plus 27 in his first season and a half(+- total was extremely better than anyone else on his team last year as a rookie) and has a impressive shot block total
-a very low Giveaway total(I believe only 8 NHL dmen last year that played atleast 50 games had a lower total of giveaways)
-plays HUGE mins ES and is heavily relied on the PP and extremely relied on the PK
-plays huge mins VS top players
.... I could go on and on and on.....

the only thing ill agree on with you is his physical presence. I wish he played more physical. But regarding everything else, IMO you couldn't be more wrong. Its actually completely the opposite

 

[Dbrownss]

or maybe the blues should capitalize on his trade value while he's still a shiny new (but not that young) toy.

Lol.....new sales tactic?

We'll capitalize on him by playing him 20+min a night.