WC: Jukka Jalonen Finland (2019-2022)

[AKQJ]

	2019			2021			2022			2022
	WC Gold			WC Silver			OG Gold			WC Gold
30	Kevin Lankinen		29	Harri Säteri		29	Harri Säteri		29	Harri Säteri
31	Veini Vehviläinen		31	Janne Juvonen		35	Frans Tuohimaa		35	Frans Tuohimaa
45	Jussi Olkinuora		45	Jussi Olkinuora		45	Jussi Olkinuora		45	Jussi Olkinuora
4	Mikko Lehtonen		2	Ville Pokka		2	Ville Pokka		2	Ville Pokka
7	Oliwer Kaski		3	Olli Määttä		3	Niklas Friman		3	Niklas Friman
28	Henri Jokiharju		6	Tony Sund		4	Mikko Lehtonen		4	Mikko Lehtonen
40	Petteri Lindbohm		7	Oliwer Kaski		13	Valtteri Kemiläinen		23	Esa Lindell
50	Miika Koivisto		39	Kim Nousiainen		38	Juuso Hietanen		38	Juuso Hietanen
55	Atte Ohtamaa		40	Petteri Lindbohm		40	Petteri Lindbohm		41	Miro Heiskanen
58	Jani Hakanpää		50	Miika Koivisto		42	Sami Vatanen		42	Sami Vatanen
70	Niko Mikkola		52	Mikael seppälä		55	Atte Ohtamaa		50	Mikael Seppälä
			55	Atte Ohtamaa					55	Atte Ohtamaa
			61	Axel Rindell
12	Marko Anttila		12	Marko Anttila		12	Marko Anttila		10	Joel Armia
15	Niko Ilomäki		13	Mikael Ruohomaa		15	Miro Aaltonen		12	Marko Anttila
19	Veli-Matti Savinainen		15	Anton Lundell		20	Niko Ojamäki		21	Jere Innala
20	Niko Ojamäki		20	Niko Ojamäki		24	Hannes Björninen		24	Hannes Björninen
21	Juhani Tyrväinen		21	Jere Innala		25	Toni Rajala		25	Toni Rajala
24	Kaapo Kakko		22	Arttu Ruotsalainen		28	Joonas Nättinen		51	Valtteri Filppula
25	Toni Rajala		24	Hannes Björninen		51	Valtteri Filppula		64	Mikael Granlund
27	Eetu Luostarinen		25	Jere Karjalainen		60	Markus Granlund		65	Sakari Manninen
41	Joel Kiviranta		27	Petri Kontiola		65	Sakari Manninen		70	Teemu Hartikainen
65	Sakari Manninen		38	Teemu Turunen		70	Teemu Hartikainen		76	Jere Sallinen
71	Kristian Kuusela		47	Peter Tiivola		71	Leo Komarov		80	Saku Mäenalainen
76	Jere Sallinen		48	Valtteri Puustinen		80	Saku Mäenalainen		82	Harri Pesonen
82	Harri Pesonen		76	Jere Sallinen		81	Iiro Pakarinen		91	Juho Lammikko
91	Juho Lammikko		80	Saku Mäenalainen		82	Harri Pesonen
			81	Iiro Pakarinen
HC	Jukka Jalonen		HC	Jukka Jalonen		HC	Jukka Jalonen		HC	Jukka Jalonen

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[AKQJ]

Only Olkinuora, Ohtamaa, Anttila been in all these teams.

 

[FiLe]

One little mistake: the silver tournament was in 2021. The 2020 edition was skipped due to COVID.

 

[FinPanda]

Only Olkinuora, Ohtamaa, Anttila been in all these teams.

The legendary Mörkö Anttila

 

[AKQJ]

One little mistake: the silver tournament was in 2021. The 2020 edition was skipped due to COVID.

True, corrected.

 

[FinPanda]

Its interesting how many players from that 2019 have played in the NHL and have been decent. Maybe there was a reason they won.

 

[AKQJ]

Besides that Jukka won in 2011 (only Mikael Granlund from current roster in his team then) and 2016 U20 (only Juho Lammikko from current roster in his team then). As there were mainly different players I will not add them.

 

[Hasa92]

Greatest European coach ever?

 

[IceHockeyDude]

Greatest European coach ever?

I don't think any coach come even close. At this level, the best coach ever on international level.

 

[FinLurker]

Greatest European coach ever?

Ever heard of Viktor Tikhonov? Still few championship to go.

 

[Hasa92]

Ever heard of Viktor Tikhonov? Still few championship to go.

Those soviet teams had players so good compared to their peers that they wouldn’t have even needed a coach and they still would have won most of those championships.

Jalonen has won Gold medals with complete scrubs.

 

[THE JAM]

Winning a hockey championship is not about how many NHL players you have in total. And it's not about what happened in the past.

You could have 500 players in the NHL and if they all want to come and participate in the next tournament,
this does not help you to win a tournament since there are only 22 skater +3 goalie spots.

You have to build a TEAM - but that is not enough - and a TEAM is not a roster of players that perhaps will not gel with eachother - e g SWE had a 'dream roster' 2002 best-on-best Olympics - but lost vs a BLR team.

So - the TEAM needs to be put together in a way that they all give their maximum effort - otherwise you'll lose like that stacked SWE lost to the FIN noname-team 2019.

 

[FiLe]

Regardless of whether there's someone above Jalonen or not in "the greatest" category, his place is definitely in the IIHF Hall of Fame. They've inducted coaches (as "builders") with lesser merits.

 

[Elias40]

Ever heard of Viktor Tikhonov? Still few championship to go.

Tikhonov's success is quite skewed by the fact that world competition was weaker then than it is today and what Jalonen has to resist. Therefore I do not set Tikhonov above Jalonen.

 

[Hockeyfrilla]

So whats his secret in building a succesful roster then?

 

[IceHockeyDude]

So whats his secret in building a succesful roster then?

A lot of work, I mean a lot.

 

[FinPanda]

So whats his secret in building a succesful roster then?

Take team full of grinders

I think he just picks the team full of players who are playing for the team and everyone has their position and their role. Some players were picked because of their defensive skills.. some were picked because of their PK ability. Also he is not overrating NHL players if we have similar player in Europe. NHL*er needs to actually bring something for the team, so they need to be a big upgrade over someone.

 

[Eye of Ra]

Winning a hockey championship is not about how many NHL players you have in total. And it's not about what happened in the past.

You could have 500 players in the NHL and if they all want to come and participate in the next tournament,
this does not help you to win a tournament since there are only 22 skater +3 goalie spots.

You have to build a TEAM - but that is not enough - and a TEAM is not a roster of players that perhaps will not gel with eachother - e g SWE had a 'dream roster' 2002 best-on-best Olympics - but lost vs a BLR team.

So - the TEAM needs to be put together in a way that they all give their maximum effort - otherwise you'll lose like that stacked SWE lost to the FIN noname-team 2019.

Why dont you bring up that stacked czechia lost to germany in 1996 world cup, 7-1 to germany? or that nhl stacked russia and canada lost to finland in 2019 aswell?

 

[THE JAM]

what about this one:

 

[Eye of Ra]

what about this one:

how about 5-0 to 5-6? or soviet losing to usa in 1980 olympics? all teams hade some chokes.

 

[THE JAM]

and what about this one:

 

[THE JAM]

how about 5-0 to 5-6? or soviet losing to usa in 1980 olympics? all teams hade some chokes.

this is a thread about J Jalonen type of great wins - not about chokes

 

[Eye of Ra]

this is a thread about J Jalonen type of great wins - not about chokes

You brought up Sweden chokes.

and what about this one:

Finland was good even back then, no shame losing to Finland.

 

[THE JAM]

this is a thread about J Jalonen type of great wins - not about chokes

You could still post a pic of that that hat that you would of had to consume in case SWE would of made it to the semifinals - we all just would love to see that hat

 

[THE JAM]

You brought up Sweden chokes.


Finland was good even back then, no shame losing to Finland.