Confirmed with Link: Jordan Schmaltz Traded for Andreas Borgman

[STLegend]

Decent bit of skill there, IDK why people are saying this is a downgrade, I view it as a wash in the worst case. We could use a young physical LHD prospect and Schmaltz was never going to crack the RHD.

 

[Majorityof1]

Decent bit of skill there, IDK why people are saying this is a downgrade, I view it as a wash in the worst case. We could use a young physical LHD prospect and Schmaltz was never going to crack the RHD.

That video is from the AHL. Schmaltz dominated the AHL too (aside from last year when he just didn't seem to care after being waived). The question is whether either can be a regular NHL guy.

I don't know about this trade. It seems like s a Lefty-Righty swap to try to give each guy a clearer path. That makes a certain bit of sense. With Muzzin and Rielley, there weren't many LHD minutes in Toronto and likewise in StL with Pie and Parry on the right. Still, while we are strong on the right, we are thin. We have Pietrangelo, Parayko and Bortuzzo. But then its Reinke and Dotchin or someone on their off-hand if one of them gets hurt. Unlessone took a step up, I'd rather have Schmaltz than one of those guys or any other prospect on their off-hand. Maybe Schmaltz just wanted out and we couldn't get a worthwhile RHD? I dunno. No big deal either way, but strange barring another move or trade demand.

 

[LetsGoBLUES91]

That's a pretty huge downgrade. Not sure why Army did this other than to save the dollars from burying Schmaltz in the minors.

You can not get a huge downgrade from a guy that was placed on waivers where any team could claim him for free and they elected not to do so.

 

[STLegend]

That video is from the AHL. Schmaltz dominated the AHL too (aside from last year when he just didn't seem to care after being waived). The question is whether either can be a regular NHL guy.

 

[JayfromNB1219]

That's a pretty huge downgrade. Not sure why Army did this other than to save the dollars from burying Schmaltz in the minors.

I don't know if I would say that...Borgman has been stuck behind our wall of LHD for quite a while now...he plays bigger than he is and he's strong as an ox...if his injury problems clear up he could potentially be a #2-3 LHD (only considering LHD not the rest of your insane D corps) for you guys in the not too distant future...Schmaltz is the wildcard in this trade for me as a Leaf fan...most of us had Borgman pencilled in the #5 spot to start the season on the left side for us...if he grows with you guys you may just have a steal on your hands

 

[JayfromNB1219]

If anything, schmaltz has potential to be a powerplay specialist rather than penalty killer.

He was an offensive defenseman in minors.

we already have two of them lol...Rielly and Barrie...might be a decent depth guy though if Barrie gets hurt

 

[JayfromNB1219]

No. Not at all.

Not 100% sure about the minors but if you put him on an NHL PK you might as well give the other team a goal.

moot point lol our PK already gives teams goals lol

 

[David Dennison]

we already have two of them lol...Rielly and Barrie...might be a decent depth guy though if Barrie gets hurt

That was kind of the Blues issue with him, his offense is his best asset but he was still just the 3rd or 4th best option the Blues would use on the power play or an offensive zone start.

 

[Davimir Tarablad]

I was definitely someone who was hopeful for Schmaltz for too long, he always looked good when training camp started, but he always ended up tapering off before the season started. He's a tweener at best, but generally seems to wilt under the pressure of an NHL game.

 

[cannucky]

Borgy was a stud for 3/4 of a season that included an injured Reilly , he is reported to have stood up for a teammate in the room against Egocock and that was it down he went where he got concussed pretty quickly .He will be a great addition to the Blues blueline once he gets the injuries behind him .

 

[Mike Liut]

Does Borgy even beat out Reinke for the 8th spot?

 

[67Blues]

Does Borgy even beat out Reinke for the 8th spot?

If either of those guys are up, the Blues are probably in trouble.

 

[BlueDream]

If either of those guys are up, the Blues are probably in trouble.

Not really. Injuries happen and they can adequately fill in in the NHL.

 

[ChicagoBlues]

Not really. Injuries happen and they can adequately fill in in the NHL.

I agree. Our depth on D is not stellar, but certainly is safe.

Wish we coulda kept MDZ because he is the perfect 8th D.

I can see Mikkola spending most of the season in the AHL where he should continue his development. Reinke might be the one to make the roster out of camp.

Borgman? Largely an unknown for me except that he is capable and safe.

 

[BlueDream]

I agree. Our depth on D is not stellar, but certainly is safe.

Wish we coulda kept MDZ because he is the perfect 8th D.

I can see Mikkola spending most of the season in the AHL where he should continue his development. Reinke might be the one to make the roster out of camp.

Borgman? Largely an unknown for me except that he is capable and safe.

I think Reinke, Borgman, Pouliot and Dotchin are all just fine #8-9 d-men. I like our depth there.

If Mikkola impresses, we have 5 guys we could potentially call up. I don’t think we’ve ever had that many.

 

[AjaxManifesto]

Decent bit of skill there, IDK why people are saying this is a downgrade, I view it as a wash in the worst case. We could use a young physical LHD prospect and Schmaltz was never going to crack the RHD.

He doesn't want to pass....


Lol


Nice goal

 

[67Blues]

He doesn't want to pass....


Lol


Nice goal

I've played with guys like that. I did not like playing with guys like that.

 

[AjaxManifesto]

I've played with guys like that. I did not like playing with guys like that.

I'm not a great shooter...I might sneak one in the five hole every now and then...so I'm a passer...always looking for the good shooters.

 

[STL fan in MN]

I think Reinke, Borgman, Pouliot and Dotchin are all just fine #8-9 d-men. I like our depth there.

If Mikkola impresses, we have 5 guys we could potentially call up. I don’t think we’ve ever had that many.

This is my thought as well. Pouliot and Dotchin have plenty of NHL experience, Borgman seems intriguing and Reinke and Mikkola are two prospects that could be NHL ready as well. Plenty of good depth D options!

...remember when Walman was apparently the next big thing and close to NHL ready a couple years ago? Now he’s pretty buried behind a number of guys.

 

[execwrite1]

I think Reinke, Borgman, Pouliot and Dotchin are all just fine #8-9 d-men. I like our depth there.

If Mikkola impresses, we have 5 guys we could potentially call up. I don’t think we’ve ever had that many.

Agreed. Also have Kyrou, Kostin, Nolan, Poganski, Walker and Lappin as #15-20 forwards. Excellent AHL depth.

 

[67Blues]

The Blues may not have superstars in the waiting, but their depth is actually pretty good for the next few years. I think we can credit BA for being smart in his drafts.

 

[TK 421]

We're punching well above our weight at the draft table under BA and we've done it while coughing up 1sts here and there. Sure they've had a few head scratchers but this is an amateur staff that's made Doug's job much easier in general by identifying future pros outside the 1st.

I'm loving the defense depth added because when you look at that group they all have NHL experience to one degree or another. We had great depth on our Cup run and it still almost wasn't enough(Dunn, Gunnarson), so I'm happy that Doug and the pro scouts identified the need and further strengthened us for another shot.

 

[GoldenSeal]

Best deal we were going to get, simple as that. Army must see a diamond in the rough here and usually we win these kinds of trades, so...

 

[GoldenSeal]

We're punching well above our weight at the draft table under BA and we've done it while coughing up 1sts here and there. Sure they've had a few head scratchers but this is an amateur staff that's made Doug's job much easier in general by identifying future pros outside the 1st.

I'm loving the defense depth added because when you look at that group they all have NHL experience to one degree or another. We had great depth on our Cup run and it still almost wasn't enough(Dunn, Gunnarson), so I'm happy that Doug and the pro scouts identified the need and further strengthened us for another shot.

Bingo

 

[execwrite1]

We're all biased here to some degree but the depth the Blues have achieved is impressive.

There's a rich pipeline - hoping to have another great draft this year. Would like to add another first-round pick.

It's important Drew Bannister and his staff coach these guys up in San Antonio.