Jokerit Helsinki 2014/15 Season Talk - Part II [MOD WARNING #439]

[Finnpin]

Santeri Saari comes back from Karlskoga as Todd won't play for about 4 weeks.

Defense can't take any more injuries. Jere transfer looks quite bad now. Saari might get some games against "weaker" opponents but KHL is wrong league for him.

 

[Urbanskog]

JMA returns on ice tonight

 

[m4tt145]

How has Jere Sallinen been?

 

[wakawakawaka]

so does Jokerit have a farm team and were is it?

 

[WeAre]

so does Jokerit have a farm team and were is it?

Nope. Sm-liiga says that no one should be dealing with Jokerit. Rumours said that HPK and TPS got penalized because they played training games against Jokerit. Sm-liiga also "forget" to send invitation to Jokerits office when last season ended. Can you believe? "Oh well I just forgot to send you an invitation to sm-liiga gaala"

It's turning now upside down. Sm-liiga is playing for half empty arenas. Even liiga fans watch more KHL-games than their "own" team in liiga

And we heard that HPK is now bankrupt. Too little audience there and no cashflow. Many liiga fans said that KHL will fall....well sounds like Liiga is falling apart piece by piece HPK leading the way.

 

[QnebO]

Lyyga thought too much of themself. They thought they can just turn peoples opinion against better hockey with being arrogant. At least in my case, they only achieved hate against themselfs. I hate liiga organisation in every aspect. Not the teams though, not all at least. KalPa I obviously do not hate.

 

[wakawakawaka]

Nope. Sm-liiga says that no one should be dealing with Jokerit. Rumours said that HPK and TPS got penalized because they played training games against Jokerit. Sm-liiga also "forget" to send invitation to Jokerits office when last season ended. Can you believe? "Oh well I just forgot to send you an invitation to sm-liiga gaala"

It's turning now upside down. Sm-liiga is playing for half empty arenas. Even liiga fans watch more KHL-games than their "own" team in liiga

And we heard that HPK is now bankrupt. Too little audience there and no cashflow. Many liiga fans said that KHL will fall....well sounds like Liiga is falling apart piece by piece HPK leading the way.

so i take it the finnish league was really mad that Jokerit joined KHL? and they seem to be doing quite well as they are close to taking the top spot in their division

 

[Urbanskog]

It's turning now upside down. Sm-liiga is playing for half empty arenas. Even liiga fans watch more KHL-games than their "own" team in liiga

And we heard that HPK is now bankrupt. Too little audience there and no cashflow. Many liiga fans said that KHL will fall....well sounds like Liiga is falling apart piece by piece HPK leading the way.

I wouldn't say there's anything positive about that.

 

[wakawakawaka]

maybe he is just happy about how sm-liiga is getting their "just desserts" for being mean to the jesters?

 

[Jussi]

maybe he is just happy about how sm-liiga is getting their "just desserts" for being mean to the jesters?

Which would be rather ironic as Jokerit/Harkimo cause it all themselves/himself by handling the KHL move so poorly.

 

[wakawakawaka]

so what exactly happened with the move that caused so much problems?

 

[eal]

Big Finnish teams should just join KHL. All of these little countries having their own senior leagues in Europe is pointless.

 

[Bakayoko Ono]

Big Finnish teams should just join KHL.

Yeah... with what resources?

 

[Finnpin]

Vuorinen yesterday in Viasat interview:

Are you looking for new players?
= Eyes and ears are open

 

[Peter25]

Big Finnish teams should just join KHL. All of these little countries having their own senior leagues in Europe is pointless.

No money for that now.

 

[Jussi]

so what exactly happened with the move that caused so much problems?

Harkimo railroaded the decision through with Kummola without proper procedure with SM-Liiga. There should have been a vote among the league shareholders but Kummola basically just announced it even though he as the Finnish hockey fed boss couldn't have made the decision on his own. Since Harkimo/Jokerit clearly broke rules, other clubs could have thrown them out of the league for the 2013-2014 season. He ended up having to pay each club 400K euros as compensation. Had he done everything accordingly, he most likely wouldn't have gotten the permission.

 

[vorky]

Harkimo on twitter: Kun lukee päivän Iltasanomia ei voi välttyä ajatukselta että se promoisi Sm-liigaa koska heillä on myös liigan tv sopimus.

Anybody to translate?

 

[QnebO]

Harkimo on twitter: Kun lukee päivän Iltasanomia ei voi välttyä ajatukselta että se promoisi Sm-liigaa koska heillä on myös liigan tv sopimus.

Anybody to translate?

(*) = Not part of translation

When you read iltasanomat (also refered as ilta-crap*), you can't avoid getting a sense that Iltasanomat is promoting SM-Liiga, as they also have TV-deal with Liiga (apparentally trough Nelonen TV*).


Of course they promote. Don't see anything wrong there. What is wrong is bashing Jokerit and their projects becuase of Liiga-bias..

 

[Jussi]

(*) = Not part of translation

When you read iltasanomat (also refered as ilta-crap*), you can't avoid getting a sense that Iltasanomat is promoting SM-Liiga, as they also have TV-deal with Liiga (apparentally trough Nelonen TV*).


Of course they promote. Don't see anything wrong there. What is wrong is bashing Jokerit and their projects becuase of Liiga-bias..

It's not Lüga bias but rather due to the publishers feud with Harkimo.

 

[loppa*]

What does this say? http://www.jokerit.com/tampereelta-jattiryntays-khl-peliin It mentions tempere, but what does that have to do with Amur??

 

[Urbanskog]

What does this say? http://www.jokerit.com/tampereelta-jattiryntays-khl-peliin It mentions tempere, but what does that have to do with Amur??

500 people from Tampere will arrive to watch the match between Jokerit and Amur. The head coach of Amur coached Tappara from 2012 until the last season and Tuukka Mäntylä is a long-time player of Tappara.

 

[loppa*]

Ha, okay.

One more side question - what is a skog? I am guessing that it is a finnish word? I asked you via private message, but no reply.

 

[Urbanskog]

Ha, okay.

One more side question - what is a skog? I am guessing that it is a finnish word? I asked you via private message, but no reply.

I guess I didn't see it.

It's a genius variation of Landeskog, landet = countryside, skog = forest

In Swedish of course.

 

[CPFC]

500 people from Tampere will arrive to watch the match between Jokerit and Amur. The head coach of Amur coached Tappara from 2012 until the last season and Tuukka Mäntylä is a long-time player of Tappara.

And there's a district in Tampere called Amuri, which derives it's name straight from the Amur region, after Finnish immigrants went there in the 19th century.

 

[Finnpin]

Mäki showing locker room, staff rooms and lounge area