Jim Leyland elected to Hall of Fame

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[Contenderorpretender]

Just want to say it's an absolute travesty that Cito Gaston didn't get in. Won more world series than Leyland, has a better win% and is The first African American manager to win the world series.

 

[Cas]

Just want to say it's an absolute travesty that Cito Gaston didn't get in. Won more world series than Leyland, has a better win% and is The first African American manager to win the world series.

I suspect the key difference is that Leyland managed almost 3500 games and Gaston managed 1731.

The only HOF managers near Gaston were Billy Southworth and Frank Selee, and both had career winning percentages near .600 and won 4 and 5 pennants, respectively. Harry Wright too, but that was a very, very different era.

I'm not sure Gaston has a better case than Danny Murtaugh, Al Dark, or Charlie Manual.

I'm not sure I'd support Jim Leyland, either. I don't know that he has a better case than Piniella, or Ralph Houk, Charlie Grimm, Mike Scioscia, or Dave Johnson.

 

[John Price]

Jim Leyland a very good man. Had the chance to see him briefly during the 2019 World series.

This is a photo of him at Nats park talking with fans.

 

[Terry Yake]

not sure i get this one. his career managerial record is right around .500 and his teams were usually chokers

 

[GKJ]

I don’t have an aversion to Leyland himself. However, steroid users are persona non grata, but they legitimized the managers they played for?

 

[PanthersPens62]

Well deserved! Gratzky Skip!

 

[Elvis P]

... I don't know that he has a better case than Piniella, or Ralph Houk, Charlie Grimm, Mike Scioscia, or Dave Johnson.

Tampa’s Lou Piniella misses out on Baseball Hall of Fame again

The longtime manager, a vote short of election, says he appreciates being considered by the 16-member contemporary baseball era committee.

www.tampabay.com

@Cas Piniella missed it by one vote.

 

[Terry Yake]

piniella shouldn't be in either. he won one WS early in his managerial career and never even won another pennant after that

unless they're planning to just let in any manager with one WS win?

 

[Elvis P]

piniella shouldn't be in either. he won one WS early in his managerial career and never even won another pennant after that ...

The same thing is true of the incredibly over rated Aaron Rodgers.

 

[Unholy Diver]

The same thing is true of the incredibly over rated Aaron Rodgers.

Actually Rodgers never won a single WS or Pennant

 

[John Price]

 

[Voight]

The same thing is true of the incredibly over rated Aaron Rodgers.

There is one player in NFL history with more MVP trophies than him.

You're a Bears fan, so I understand why you hate the man, he does own your team after all

 

[Voight]

Just want to say it's an absolute travesty that Cito Gaston didn't get in. Won more world series than Leyland, has a better win% and is The first African American manager to win the world series.

Honestly, it's not. Yes, two World Series wins is impressive as is winning them back to back but he didn't make the playoffs again after 93, didn't manage anywhere else so there isn't a lot for them to go off of. Winning two championships as a manager is rare but that alone doesn't make him HOF worthy.

Look at Dusty Baker. Only has one championship but had success everywhere he managed and consistently made the playoffs.

not sure i get this one. his career managerial record is right around .500 and his teams were usually chokers

Yea makes no sense to me either other than the fact they wanted to reward a guy for sticking around the game forever.