Rumor: Jason Zucker being “shopped heavily”

[Fantomas]

You only consider making it if he signs the contract to come over. Even then it's a toss up. He's a very skilled player, but will he be as effective on NHL ice as Zucker has proven he can be? That's what the GM making the theoretical deal will have to reconcile.

Okay. But choosing proven over unproven is not a great way to run a team.

 

[AKL]

Okay. But choosing proven over unproven is not a great way to run a team.

Sorry, I may be confused here, but are you saying that a GM choosing Zucker over Gusev is not a great way to run a team? Just want to clarify.

 

[Fantomas]

Sorry, I may be confused here, but are you saying that a GM choosing Zucker over Gusev is not a great way to run a team? Just want to clarify.

No, it just seems that the stumbling block for you is that Gusev is unproven in the NHL. But that's pretty banal. Of course he is unproven.

There is risk, but there is also significant chance of reward. Meanwhile your team is the one shopping Zucker, an underachiever making 5.5 mil.

The mentality of choosing proven over unproven lacks imagination.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

No, it just seems that the stumbling block for you is that Gusev is unproven in the NHL. But that's pretty banal. Of course he is unproven.

There is risk, but there is also significant chance of reward. Meanwhile your team is the one shopping Zucker, an underachiever making 5.5 mil.

The mentality of choosing proven over unproven lacks imagination.

I think the stumbling block is that Gusev isn't assured to ever come over.

 

[AKL]

No, it just seems that the stumbling block for you is that Gusev is unproven in the NHL. But that's pretty banal. Of course he is unproven.

There is risk, but there is also significant chance of reward. Meanwhile your team is the one shopping Zucker, an underachiever making 5.5 mil.

The mentality of choosing proven over unproven lacks imagination.

The mentality of giving away a guy who has scored 30 goals and 60 points for a guy who may never play a single NHL game lacks, well, intelligence.

And the stumbling block is that he may never play a single NHL game.

 

[CROCODILE SEATS]

Already know we’re not gonna get much. Still glad the blowing up of the team is coming though..

 

[Fantomas]

The mentality of giving away a guy who has scored 30 goals and 60 points for a guy who may never play a single NHL game lacks, well, intelligence.

And the stumbling block is that he may never play a single NHL game.

I've already addressed Gusev potentially not playing in my previous posts where I said pretty clearly that a) reportedly he is coming over and b) anyone trading for him should first get assurances that he will play.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

I've already addressed Gusev potentially not playing in my previous posts where I said pretty clearly that a) reportedly he is coming over and b) anyone trading for him should first get assurances that he will play.

Assurances can change.

 

[ref19]

Assuming you're talking Elias Pettersson and Auston Matthews I would think long and hard about taking the former.

If you are the Arizona GM trying to get asses in the seats you wouldn’t.

 

[Marlowe Syn]

I think the Wild fans will be disappointed with the return. (if there is a trade, of course)

As a Wild fan I agree. While I'm not as down on Fenton's trading skill as much as some fans. Nino for Rask was a big giant stupid whiff, but pretty pleased with the return on the Donato/Coyle & Aberg/Kloos trades. That said, because of the Nino trade Fenton also hasn't instilled me with confidence either. Either way it seems like a buyers market. So braced for low returns.

 

[ref19]

Who's Pettersen?

Vancouver 1c. If you are trying to get me by being off a letter stop talking

 

[AKL]

If you are the Arizona GM trying to get asses in the seats? No you wouldn’t.

Auston Matthews being from here isn't really going to be much of a difference. Maybe a small one at first. Maybe it increases jersey sales over Pettersson. But icing the best team is what's ultimately going to get people to go to games.

 

[Fantomas]

Assurances can change.

Yeah and any trepidation around this makes sense to me. A highly paid Russian guy like Gusev might be excited to play for Vegas, or Chicago, or New York, or Los Angeles, but could be less enthusiastic about Minnesota.

(and this is spoken as someone who absolutely hates Vegas)

But concerns about Gusev's ability as a player don't make any sense to me. He's quite good. If he comes over I think he will succeed (just MO).

 

[ref19]

Auston Matthews being from here isn't really going to be much of a difference. Maybe a small one at first. Maybe it increases jersey sales over Pettersson. But icing the best team is what's ultimately going to get people to go to games.

Not in Phoenix Arizona

This is different than Mauer being a hometown stud

 

[AKL]

Not in Phoenix Arizona

Have you ever been to Phoenix, Arizona?

 

[Fantomas]

Vancouver 1c. If you are trying to get me by being off a letter stop talking

I don't know. Maybe Vegas is super excited about trading for Zucker for that reason. I wouldn't be.

 

[ref19]

Have you ever been to Phoenix, Arizona?

A bunch of times. They aren’t likely to draw but having a hometown kid doesn’t hurt.
And it grows the game at the youth level a ton.

 

[AKL]

A bunch of times. They aren’t likely to draw but having a hometown kid doesn’t hurt.

Again, it's probably going to sell some jerseys, and maybe some tickets at first, but if the team still sucks, no one's going to continue going to games because Matthews is on the team.

 

[ref19]

Again, it's probably going to sell some jerseys, and maybe some tickets at first, but if the team still sucks, no one's going to continue going to games because Matthews is on the team.

Read the whole post.

You’re from MN where hockey is twice as big as anywhere else in the states. I do get it though

 

[AKL]

Read the whole post

About the youth hockey scene?

Yeah I promise the Arizona Coyotes ownership and management has bigger priorities than the local youth hockey scene.

 

[BlacknGold4life]

As my thread post, Phil Kessel for Zucker and Greenwood (if Wild don't want to part with 1st).

 

[AKL]

As my thread post, Phil Kessel for Zucker and Greenwood (if Wild don't want to part with 1st).

Jesus Christ no

 

[BlackBusa24]

As my thread post, Phil Kessel for Zucker and Greenwood (if Wild don't want to part with 1st).

No kessel. Wild need youth.

 

[SnS]

I want Zucker in philly.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

I want Zucker in philly.

To play where? You already have Giroux/Couturier and JVR on the left side.