Player Discussion Jake "Big Tuna" Virtanen | XVII Nikolaj Who...?

[Eddy Punch Clock]

I don't know a single person who wants Virtanen to fail, only people who believe that's what will happen. Big difference.

I want nothing more than to eat a truckload of crow on Virtanen. I want him to become the 30/30 speedy power forward that his optimistic pre draft scouting reports pegged as his ceiling.

I've been wrong on lots of prospects before and I'll be wrong on lots more in the future. It does my ego no harm by adding one more to the pile and if I'm going to be wrong, I might as well be wrong in a way that helps the team I like.

Perfectly put.

 

[y2kcanucks]

Agreed that the other centers were poor defensively, but how often did Gaunce even play center last year?

He was the regular 4C.

 

[m9]

He was the regular 4C.

No, he wasn't.

Obviously not the whole picture, but..

Chaput took 5.7 faceoffs per game, a number that was pushed down because he played wing up the lineup later in the year.

Gaunce took 2.9 faceoffs per game.

 

[y2kcanucks]

No, he wasn't.

Obviously not the whole picture, but..

Chaput took 5.7 faceoffs per game, a number that was pushed down because he played wing up the lineup later in the year.

Gaunce took 2.9 faceoffs per game.

Just because one takes faceoffs doesn't mean they're playing the C position.

 

[MS]

Just because one takes faceoffs doesn't mean they're playing the C position.

Chaput was generally playing center on the Gaunce-Chaput-Skille line that was together for ~30 odd games. Gaunce did play center on the 4th line at other times.

 

[DL44]

Back on topic..

Anyone know where Jake's been training this off-season?
Home in Abby? In Van at the training facility? Where is the Canucks' training facility now anyway?

 

[m9]

Just because one takes faceoffs doesn't mean they're playing the C position.

Chaput was the regular 4C.

Gaunce played it more often earlier in the season, but describing anyone other than Chaput as the regular 4C last year would be wrong. Even the time later in the year when Chaput played on other lines, Gaunce was hurt.

 

[DadBod]

I don't think he'll show up this year trying to rival Byfyglien. He posts often on his Instagram being in the gym. The only picture I've seen of him this year at that charity event he looked in shape.

 

[DL44]

I don't think he'll show up this year trying to rival Byfyglien. He posts often on his Instagram being in the gym. The only picture I've seen of him this year at that charity event he looked in shape.

I can't keep with all these social media options..
just looked up his instagram now.

Posted a video a couple weeks ago grinding it out in Chiliwack... getting pumped to see the beast in the fall.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BV-aIs8Dsn8/?taken-by=jakevirtanen18&hl=en

 

[Pavel96]

I can't keep with all these social media options..
just looked up his instagram now.

Posted a video a couple weeks ago grinding it out in Chiliwack... getting pumped to see the beast in the fall.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BV-aIs8Dsn8/?taken-by=jakevirtanen18&hl=en

That video makes you a beast? Looked like he was competent at the drill but he definitely wasn't manhandling the sled that had only 90 lbs on it?

 

[DL44]

That video makes you a beast? Looked like he was competent at the drill but he definitely wasn't manhandling the sled that had only 90 lbs on it?

No.. not the video.

 

[Dab]

That video makes you a beast? Looked like he was competent at the drill but he definitely wasn't manhandling the sled that had only 90 lbs on it?

I think it shows he's in pretty good physical condition, he did the drill at good speed and kept his pace up well.

Hopefully a good sign of things to come.

 

[PhilMick]

I can't keep with all these social media options..
just looked up his instagram now.

Posted a video a couple weeks ago grinding it out in Chiliwack... getting pumped to see the beast in the fall.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BV-aIs8Dsn8/?taken-by=jakevirtanen18&hl=en

Hah nice, pushing a sled is literally the worst thing ever. I would make my enemies do it if I could.

I'm embarrassed to get bro-sciencey about this but I noticed the same thing in his battle ropes video: his shoulders are hunched forward. I don't know why his trainers don't have him focused on keeping his shoulder blades back and down. When you get out of whack like is when you start effing up your shoulders because they're not sitting nicely in their sockets.

 

[Pavel96]

Hah nice, pushing a sled is literally the worst thing ever. I would make my enemies do it if I could.

I'm embarrassed to get bro-sciencey about this but I noticed the same thing in his battle ropes video: his shoulders are hunched forward. I don't know why his trainers don't have him focused on keeping his shoulder blades back and down. When you get out of whack like is when you start effing up your shoulders because they're not sitting nicely in their sockets.

Plus his head is bent down looking at toes. Not sure when it's ever beneficial to have your head that far down. Base isn't wide enough as well. More I watch it, looks like he's giving it quite a bit to move that. Like it's more important to get it moving as fast as he has it without using proper skill building technique that will also not injure him like you say.

 

[settinguptheplay]

And his shoes were not tied near tight enough. No wonder he sucks at life. The gall of it!

 

[Pavel96]

And his shoes were not tied near tight enough. No wonder he sucks at life. The gall of it!

Hahahah!

 

[DadBod]

None of the "workout" videos he's posted are impressive. The sled video and ropes video aren't of great length, strength of athleticism. I'm banking that he's just showing small clips proving to people he's actually working out. I'm also encouraged he's not going to show up a 231lb 50% BF slob who can't make it through a practice (yes this actually happened).

 

[ProstheticConscience]

Hey, if Virtanen becomes a player, great! I will back this kid up all over the board.

I will very happily eat ten different kinds of crow if Jake Virtanen becomes any kind of impact NHL player.

 

[VasilyHoglander]

By the look of his pal's hat, I'd say Virtanen seems more interested in a hunting/fishing career than the NHL. And sockless? Somebody doesn't care about blisters. Bad attitude.

Thats matthew barzal. Nyi prospect.

 

[M2Beezy]

Back on topic..

Anyone know where Jake's been training this off-season?
Home in Abby? In Van at the training facility? Where is the Canucks' training facility now anyway?

Mcdonalds

 

[Nick Lang]

Back on topic..

Anyone know where Jake's been training this off-season?
Home in Abby? In Van at the training facility? Where is the Canucks' training facility now anyway?

I forgot, who are we hating now? Isn't this a Benning thread, stay on topic mofo.

Wow, summer sucks yet the hatred flows strong.

 

[Tinhorn1]

I forgot, who are we hating now? Isn't this a Benning thread, stay on topic mofo.

Wow, summer sucks yet the hatred flows strong.

The past page of this thread is full of jokes, my friend. The only comment bringing it down at the moment is yours.

 

[JanBulisPiggyBack]

None of the "workout" videos he's posted are impressive. The sled video and ropes video aren't of great length, strength of athleticism. I'm banking that he's just showing small clips proving to people he's actually working out. I'm also encouraged he's not going to show up a 231lb 50% BF slob who can't make it through a practice (yes this actually happened).

Except 50% is a larger exaggeration, also those practices are designed to push players to exhaustion in camp, he fully came in unprepared and out of shape but it's not uncommon. Virtanen was simple unprofessional at that point and the Canucks gifting him a roster spot was directly responsible for his approach to being a professional athlete.

 

[Cupless44]

So now it has come down to critiquing Virtanen's workouts and complaining they are not impressive enough?

I wonder how impressive Elias Petterson's work outs would be??

Virtanen looks pretty trim and seems committed to his fitness now. I think that is what matters. How about we wait and see how he looks on the ice at camp?

 

[Breakers]

The only workout video that would get me super excited about Virtanen is if the video contained him in the film room watching tape.


His IQ has always been his achilles heel