Jack Hughes vs Moritz Seider

[Dion TheFluff]

Likely the top 2 players from 2019 draft (Zegras is a clear #3 for me) so... who would you rather build your team around? Hughes or Seider?

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[Lays]

Seider
Zegras
Hughes

 

[mw2noobbuster]

I value centre over the defense position personally, but Seider is looking like Lidstrom reincarnated so far so I'm going with him.

 

[Favin]

Hughes
Seider
Zegras
Knight


(everyone else from 2019)

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Seider
Zegras
Hughes

Honest question. What does Hughes have to do to impress you?

 

[Nocashstyle]

This one’s tough. Ill homer vote for Hughes, but the real answer very well could flip flop depending on the season. Zegras can definitely enter the conversation too.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

Honest question. What does Hughes have to do to impress you?

You already know the answer to this.

 

[Rydev]

Jack Hughes since getting healthy from his shoulder injury has 47 points in 33 games - I think he should be getting the nod right about now due to the position and contract he already has

 

[Hisch13r]

Jack

 

[Hisch13r]

Seider
Zegras
Hughes

lol

Honest question. What does Hughes have to do to impress you?

I remember the Kakko vs Hughes poll from before the start of the year where he said Kakko>Hughes because Kakko will be Landeskog and Hughes will be Gaudreau. That's a take that has aged extraordinarily well in more ways than one

 

[Saucechucker99]

Hughes for me but that is purely positional. I would prefer a top center than top d to build around. I would not be upset with building around either though.

 

[dmac7719]

Franchise C > Franchise D

And Hughes is looking every part of that of a franchise C.
It may have taken him a few more seasons than some of the previous 1st overalls that were super hyped, but he is looking like the player that any team with a 1st overall pick would like to grab.

 

[82Ninety42011]

This is probably one of the hardest polls for me because both players are fabulous. However I will say getting a legit top pairing RHD with size and skill is just too hard to pass up for me. Hughes has been money this season and honestly you can't go wrong with either but if had to vote Seider gets mine. What a draft and Zegras is dynamite as well I might add.

 

[Buck Naked]

Hughes
Seider

Zegras (why he's in contention here I don't know, but as of now there's a gap between him and the top 2)

 

[Hisch13r]

Franchise C > Franchise D

And Hughes is looking every part of that of a franchise C.
It may have taken him a few more seasons than some of the previous 1st overalls that were super hyped, but he is looking like the player that any team with a 1st overall pick would like to grab.

Him coming in slower ended up working out for the best for us since his upcoming contract is going to be a massive steal. It's reminiscent of MacKinnon not breaking out until he was already on his next deal

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Homer vote for Seider, but you could easily make an argument for both guys, and both positions.

There isn’t a bad answer here, outside, “AINEC.” Honestly, a too close to call option would’ve probably won the poll.

 

[dmac7719]

Him coming in slower ended up working out for the best for us since his upcoming contract is going to be a massive steal. It's reminiscent of MacKinnon not breaking out until he was already on his next deal

Maybe, maybe not. If Hughes is asking in the 8.5-9 million range do you really think NJ would be adamant that the number be in the 7's? Because Mack didn't have his massive breakout until the second season of his contract, whereas Hughes is having said breakout right before it. His slower career start may prevent him from getting a Matthews/Marner level contract for his first contract, but I also could see it being a couple million more than Mack's.

I do believe though that whatever contract Hughes signs will be a steal, in that he will be worth way more than whatever he ends up signing for, similar to a lot of the top franchise players in the league.

 

[34]

Jack Hughes for me. This kid is going to be the real deal.

 

[Hisch13r]

Maybe, maybe not. If Hughes is asking in the 8.5-9 million range do you really think NJ would be adamant that the number be in the 7's? Because Mack didn't have his massive breakout until the second season of his contract, whereas Hughes is having said breakout right before it. His slower career start may prevent him from getting a Matthews/Marner level contract for his first contract, but I also could see it being a couple million more than Mack's.

I do believe though that whatever contract Hughes signs will be a steal, in that he will be worth way more than whatever he ends up signing for, similar to a lot of the top franchise players in the league.

He’s already signed. He signed when he came back from the injury for 8x8. It’s not an exact 1-1 comparison because MacKinnon’s huge breakout came in year 5 when he was on year 2 of his new deal while Jack’s is year 3 but the comparison comes in because they both signed before they had their big breakouts which kept their contract lower than what it could’ve been.

 

[RedWingzz]

Seider.

I have no doubt in my mind that he'll be in the Norris conversation within a year or 2. Not sure you can make an argument that Hughes will be in the conversation for the best C in the NHL at any point during his career, so by this logic, it's Mo.

I like Hughes though, so I'll respect the people voting for him. I just think Seider's ceiling will be a more dominant player.

 

[ricky0034]

Seider.

I have no doubt in my mind that he'll be in the Norris conversation within a year or 2. Not sure you can make an argument that Hughes will be in the conversation for the best C in the NHL at any point during his career, so by this logic, it's Mo.

I like Hughes though, so I'll respect the people voting for him. I just think Seider's ceiling will be a more dominant player.

there isn't anyone at other positions as good as McDavid though so I don't think that's an entirely fair analogy, this is a guy that has a legitimate shot at being a top 5 player of all time once it's all said and done

I think Hughes could definitely be in the conversation with the Centers in the tier below that in a couple years

anyways personally as far as the poll goes I would be willing to trade Seider for Hughes if given the chance at a 1:1 swap so I voted for him here

 

[RedWingzz]

there isn't anyone at other positions as good as McDavid though so I don't think that's an entirely fair analogy, this is a guy that has a legitimate shot at being a top 5 player of all time once it's all said and done

I think Hughes could definitely be in the conversation with the Centers in the tier below that in a couple years

anyways personally as far as the poll goes I would be willing to trade Seider for Hughes if given the chance at a 1:1 swap so I voted for him here

You're entitled to your opinion, but I strongly disagree. That would not be a good trade for the organization at all. Our defense is in absolute shambles as it is, and I can't imagine how bad it would be without Seider. Although we could definitely use some more skill up front, offensive production is the least of our concerns at the moment.

I don't think many Wings fans would agree with you on this one.

 

[WangMustGo]

Seider.

I have no doubt in my mind that he'll be in the Norris conversation within a year or 2. Not sure you can make an argument that Hughes will be in the conversation for the best C in the NHL at any point during his career, so by this logic, it's Mo.

I like Hughes though, so I'll respect the people voting for him. I just think Seider's ceiling will be a more dominant player.

That logic is pretty irrational though. There is no defenseman that is comparable to Mcdavid.

Any franchise would be lucky to have either, as an isles fan we need scoring help so i would want Hughes.

 

[AD1066]

As a Wings fan, defense is a bigger need for us and Seider has all the makings of a franchise defenseman.

In the abstract though, I'd generally prefer a 1C over a 1D.

 

[Cheddabombs]

Honest question. What does Hughes have to do to impress you?

The most surprising thing about that post was that the Rangers weren't somehow forced into the conversation