StevenToddIves
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Solution! We trade 20 for 28 + 52 + 59.
Boom.
That's actually an interesting offer.
Solution! We trade 20 for 28 + 52 + 59.
Boom.
That would be amazing and Ottawa would not do that because the perceived value is way in the Devils favor. The values are not exact, in part because people can only trade the picks they actually have and presumably one team is more interested in making a trade happen. That said, we would likely only get 28 and one 2nd, there’s never been a comparable return as good as 1st and 2 2nds ever in a similar swap. NJ can add Cane’s 3rd adds to value (but it won’t get another 2nd lol).Solution! We trade 20 for 28 + 52 + 59.
Boom.
Might be able to get Robins, Vierling and Faber with those three.That's actually an interesting offer.
Yes, just realized the lopsidedness of that trade. Still might be able to get Robins at the 28th, Vierling at the one extra 2nd picked up, then Faber with the third from Carolina.View attachment 369242
That would be amazing and Ottawa would not do that because the perceived value is way in the Devils favor. The values are not exact, in part because people can only trade the picks they actually have and presumably one team is more interested in making a trade happen. That said, we would likely only get 28 and one 2nd, there’s never been a comparable return as good as 1st and 2 2nds ever in a similar swap. NJ can add Cane’s 3rd adds to value (but it won’t get another 2nd lol).
The Athletic has a good article about the different studies of the value of NHL draft picks. I’ve included a chart for draft pick values from the articles from one of the models for non-subscribers because I fight for the users.
By the numbers: Revisiting the true value of a draft pick
View attachment 369242
That would be amazing and Ottawa would not do that because the perceived value is way in the Devils favor. The values are not exact, in part because people can only trade the picks they actually have and presumably one team is more interested in making a trade happen. That said, we would likely only get 28 and one 2nd, there’s never been a comparable return as good as 1st and 2 2nds ever in a similar swap. NJ can add Cane’s 3rd adds to value (but it won’t get another 2nd lol).
The Athletic has a good article about the different studies of the value of NHL draft picks. I’ve included a chart for draft pick values from the articles from one of the models for non-subscribers because I fight for the users.
By the numbers: Revisiting the true value of a draft pick
To give two examples using the chart:Yes, just realized the lopsidedness of that trade. Still might be able to get Robins at the 28th, Vierling at the one extra 2nd picked up, then Faber with the third from Carolina.
I think there is definitely a drop off at 20-22, so no matter who we pick, I’ll be happy. Admittedly, I would prefer forwards over anyone but Drysdale/Sanderson.
at this point I just want the draft to be here!
also Sebrango from Kitchener is great, I could see him in the 3rd. I think he’s better then Vukojevic and when he adds man strength he will have more beef behind his physical game. Great shot when he uses, skates very well and makes a great pass up the ice.
I would consider 28 and 52 or 59 for 20, maybe even for 18. depending on the option available at 18. at 20 i don't think, there will be any must gets, which might also be available at 28 or a comparable player. the second rounder would be of good use to add a D prospect at a more fitting spot.View attachment 369242
That would be amazing and Ottawa would not do that because the perceived value is way in the Devils favor. The values are not exact, in part because people can only trade the picks they actually have and presumably one team is more interested in making a trade happen. That said, we would likely only get 28 and one 2nd, there’s never been a comparable return as good as 1st and 2 2nds ever in a similar swap. NJ can add Cane’s 3rd adds to value (but it won’t get another 2nd lol).
The Athletic has a good article about the different studies of the value of NHL draft picks. I’ve included a chart for draft pick values from the articles from one of the models for non-subscribers because I fight for the users.
By the numbers: Revisiting the true value of a draft pick
Can we get top 10 pick with 18+ 20?
Not top 10, but I think Nashville pick 11 is a strong possibilty.Can we get top 10 pick with 18+ 20?
Can we get top 10 pick with 18+ 20?
How do you feel about what our friend over on HF posted as a possible motive to move up? Taking on Russell to jump from 20 to 14. I don't like the framework of what he offered but I like the idea.No, and our recent history doesn't suggest that we would have interest in moving up
How do you feel about what our friend over on HF posted as a possible motive to move up? Taking on Russell to jump from 20 to 14. I don't like the framework of what he offered but I like the idea.
I don't think Askarov makes it to 14 but I would definitely do 20 and Mikey for 14 and Russell, especially if it gives us the chance to land Jarvis. Russell also helps us fill a need and, as you said on FF, lets us move on from Mueller while giving Ty Smith a veteran partner with a rep of being helpful to youth. LIS over there, though, I'm not adding that Carolina 3rd to it. No interest in waiting over 80 picks to select again and losing a shot at a decent dman prospect in the process.I've brought it up here a time or two. I'd definitely be interested in getting to 14, and it makes sense, but I just don't know if it's something we would do where we are including more than taking back the cap dump. I don't know if we would throw them a pick or Mikey, let alone both (even if Mikey has no value)
If we did, I kind of have to wonder if it would be for askarov lol
How do you feel about what our friend over on HF posted as a possible motive to move up? Taking on Russell to jump from 20 to 14. I don't like the framework of what he offered but I like the idea.
He has a 10 team modified no-trade list. Who knows if we're on it or not but he knows he isn't going to be playing in Edmonton so he could always waive it.Umm... CapFriendly has him with a NMC. Not sure if it's modified or not, but it may mean we're required to protect him in the expansion draft. Or does it not matter if his contract is up after this year?
This is all so confusing.
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Interesting. Looks like he's only being paid 2.5M in real money. Maybe less because 1M is in signing bonuses, which may have been paid by Edmonton already.
Not top 10, but I think Nashville pick 11 is a strong possibilty.
If we do trade up to Pick 11, it is probably to draft Askarov, if he is still available at that selection.
I apologize if you did one already on any of these guys in advance. You don't have to address all of them in detail whatsoever, just whatever you want to do. Brief blurbs, at best, is all I expect. Thanks.One week until the draft, folks! If anyone wants me to give them a write up of any 2020 draft-eligibles, just let me know on this thread.
I apologize if you did one already on any of these guys in advance. You don't have to address all of them in detail whatsoever, just whatever you want to do. Brief blurbs, at best, is all I expect. Thanks.
Blake Biondi
Charlie Desroches
Elliot Ekmark
Alex Gaffney
Cross Hanas
Bear Hughes
Alex Jefferies
Ben King
Leo Loof