Ivan Fedotov -- Flyers ELS contract tolled, signed KHL deal. UPD IIHF rules NHL contract valid, sanctions player, CSKA
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mouser
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For those curious: the contract and NHL CBA say Fedotov’s contract should be automatically extended one year.
My question would be whether there any wrinkles with European contract law where the IIHF could find the NHL’s extension rule invalid?
From the ELC SPC (entry level standard player contract):
It’s clear Fedotov agreed that the contract he signed is subject to the CBA.
From the CBA section on Entry Level Contracts:
Fedotov did not render his playing services to the Flyers in 2022-23. This was not caused by injury, illness or disability. Hence the contract should be extended to 2023-24.
My question would be whether there any wrinkles with European contract law where the IIHF could find the NHL’s extension rule invalid?
From the ELC SPC (entry level standard player contract):
It’s clear Fedotov agreed that the contract he signed is subject to the CBA.
From the CBA section on Entry Level Contracts:
Fedotov did not render his playing services to the Flyers in 2022-23. This was not caused by injury, illness or disability. Hence the contract should be extended to 2023-24.
Rich Nixon
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With all the russian teams banned from IIHF event will they even accpet the ruling
cant penalize them if they dont ?
cant penalize them if they dont ?
MXD
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The contract Fedotov signed is absolutely binding and whichever people saying otherwise should probably resign from their position for bad knowledge of contract law.
The more appropriate question is whether it's binding to third parties, and it's definitely something the NHL will fight for recognition since it will make that mechanism absolutely toothless.
And come on, that's not a valid source...
This is business gamesmanship from Esmatovich. The IIHF hasnt made a decision yet.
Nevertheless, Fedotov has already started training with CSKA.
Things must be changing in Russia concerning military training. I thought players were getting out of that commitment quite easily.
Fedotov is the only guy out of like 1,450 KHL/VHLers to get conscripted.
That's more than 99.9% not doing military duty. Its the working class/poor who are getting called.
Werent you the guy who, a year ago, was adamant hockey players were gonna be sent to Ukraine en masse?
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Fedotov is the only guy out of like 1,450 KHL/VHLers to get conscripted.
That's more than 99.9% not doing military duty. Its the working class/poor who are getting called.
Werent you the guy who, a year ago, was adamant hockey players were gonna be sent to Ukraine en masse?
He wasn't conscripted. Russia has a mandatory service which is just a year. He tried to avoid that and got caught. If he was actually drafted it would be for more than just a year imo.
The situation was a little more nuanced than that. He was conscripted, or more like 'outed' for avoiding his mandatory duty without a deferment.....but he was essentially conscripted as a result.
Conscription is your 1 year mandatory service.
I was referring to the mandatory service and not conscription. I know it's expected but players have been getting out of it. Things must be changing for the prized children to be held back for duties they used to be able to skip out on.
it wasn't that he tried to get out of it it was how. A fake pass showing that he eithered already served or was given an exemption. He got in trouble for that.
From what I have read around here that was a common practice back in the day. Again, things must be changing.
Has it not always been situational?
Some players were recently busted for fake military cards, but that was before the Ukraine debacle. Ex-Philly prospect Vorobiev was one.
I also recall reading here players were busted for the same when Cherepanov’s death was investigated; one of which was sent to the army. Some guy from Moscow Dynamo like 10 years ago too i think.
alko
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Might not be that easy. Many of the famous defections happened when teams/countries were competing outside their own countries and in the current political climate that isn't happening.
- Stastnys left from European Cup tournament in Vienna
- Mogilny left from World Championships in Stockholm
- Malkin left from training camp in Finland
IIHF - IIHF sanctions Ivan Fedotov and CSKA Hockey Club
The International Ice Hockey Federation has reviewed the contracts entered into by Ivan Fedotov ...
If you ever needed evidence that Russian media is completely full of, well, you know what....
Porter Stoutheart
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The 4-month ban on the player is hardly any deterrant. I suppose the 1-yr ban on the team could be somewhat "inconvenient", but they'll probably be able to work around it by just deferring any agreements they make with foreign players to not becoming "official" until August 11 next summer? Or really, just ignoring it, because why does it matter to them anyway when Russia is basically already banned from IIHF activities?IIHF - IIHF sanctions Ivan Fedotov and CSKA Hockey Club
The International Ice Hockey Federation has reviewed the contracts entered into by Ivan Fedotov ...www.iihf.com
If you ever needed evidence that Russian media is completely full of, well, you know what....
If Fedotov wanted to 'run away' he'd have done it already. He was on holiday in Dubai last month.
On the contrary he chose to re-up with CSKA because he knows he's not NHL quality after not playing for a year...and likely doesn't want to toil in the AHL.
Interesting decision by the IIHF, nonetheless.
The Russian Ice Hockey Federation said they'd comply with the IIHF's decision. Fedotov said he'd play for whoever's contract (Philadelphia or CSKA) IIHF has deemed more valid.
Let's see what CSKA/KHL does now.
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LadyStanley
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kp61c
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Lol. Of course Szymon Szemberg has to involve Putin in everything.
Regardless, appears the decision has been made to make the KHL more like the NHL.
Even Igor Larionov is supporting this per an interview he gave recently.
Quite interesting.
Lol. Of course Szymon Szemberg has to involve Putin in everything.
Regardless, appears the decision has been made to make the KHL more like the NHL.
Even Igor Larionov is supporting this per an interview he gave recently.
Quite interesting.
With what kind of money? If they want to keep russia players in russia then they have to pay the players a whole lot more and mean a whole lot more.
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