Injury Report: Is Jones playing through something?

[LadyStanley]

Sources say.....

 

[Led Zappa]

If Jones were playing through an injury and still winning games, I'd at least understand the reasoning of playing him. If we didn't have a capable backup and resting Jones meant starting someone like Stalock, I'd understand the reasoning.

But Jones playing injured is literally costing the team games and we do have a capable backup.

Sure you would.

He just beat the Kings.

Crapped the bed again and is being rested.

Some of you, with little real information to base it on, will take every opportunity to criticize this coaching staff. You have no idea if he was getting better and then had a relapse.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

Do you think that Dell will play both games or do you think Grosenick will get a start?

 

[LadyStanley]

Depends on # SOG

 

[SnarkAttack]

Sure you would.

He just beat the Kings.

Crapped the bed again and is being rested.

Some of you, with little real information to base it on, will take every opportunity to criticize this coaching staff. You have no idea if he was getting better and then had a relapse.

You're right, we don't know that information for sure. However, we do know that Dell has outperformed Jones almost all year, and especially in the last month and a half. Injury or not, he should be playing right now. I like Jones, but he is just not good right now, for whatever reason.

I hope it's a nagging injury. If it isn't, then this is FAR more concerning to me.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

Dell has outplayed him the last month and a half. Jones was nails before he was hurt (the first time).

 

[Negatively Positive]

Jones' strength is down low so the fact he's getting beat 5 hole means there's probably something wrong. I kinda hope he's hurt as long as it's not nagging or serious because the alternative means he's healthy and playing like trash for no reason.

 

[LadyStanley]

TV says he has a UBI. (Yet he was limping?)

 

[Kcoyote3]

This could all just be a code to let him rest through a slump

 

[Juxtaposer]

Sure you would.

He just beat the Kings.

Crapped the bed again and is being rested.

Some of you, with little real information to base it on, will take every opportunity to criticize this coaching staff. You have no idea if he was getting better and then had a relapse.

Yeah actually, I would.

You never ever criticize anything the coaching staff, no matter what, on the premise that ‘we have very little real information to base it on’. But whatever.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

After tonight, any chance Grosenick is playing tomorrow?

 

[Led Zappa]

Yeah actually, I would.

Well you didn't, since he just won a game and you said you'd understand if he was winning games. Apparently you forget recently relevant information.

You never ever criticize anything the coaching staff, no matter what, on the premise that ‘we have very little real information to base it on’. But whatever.

[MOD] I tend give the benefit of the doubt to professionals who actually, you know, assess these players in person and have degrees in their areas of expertise than random internet posters who think they know more than people who talk to the players and doctors every day.

Apparently you feel you can judge them without any of this knowledge or expertise.

Good luck with that.

Now if they kept playing Martin after it was obvious he was done I'd have a problem, but that complaint / fear made by many here never came true. How about some praise for the org for not doing that. When I see that then "maybe" I'll stop defending them at every turn, but since they get ZERO support here, I'll feel just fine standing up for them.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Well you didn't, since he just won a game and you said you'd understand if he was winning games. Apparently you forget recently relevant information.


[MOD] I tend give the benefit of the doubt to professionals who actually, you know, assess these players in person and have degrees in their areas of expertise than random internet posters who think they know more than people who talk to the players and doctors every day.

Apparently you feel you can judge them without any of this knowledge or expertise.

Good luck with that.

Now if they kept playing Martin after it was obvious he was done I'd have a problem, but that complaint / fear made by many here never came true. How about some praise for the org for not doing that. When I see that then "maybe" I'll stop defending them at every turn, but since they get ZERO support here, I'll feel just fine standing up for them.

I sense some anger here.

 

[The Ice Hockey Dude]

After tonight, any chance Grosenick is playing tomorrow?

That is the question for sure. Id say Dell for sure unless they are sure Jones is ready and i dont know how he could be 100 percent that fast. We need points and should start our best goalie whomis healthy, in this case Dell.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

That is the question for sure. Id say Dell for sure unless they are sure Jones is ready and i dont know how he could be 100 percent that fast. We need points and should start our best goalie whomis healthy, in this case Dell.

Apparently Dell is playing tomorrow too.

 

[LadyStanley]

Dr Gackle comments

 

[Juxtaposer]

Well you didn't, since he just won a game and you said you'd understand if he was winning games. Apparently you forget recently relevant information.

Yeah, he won...... one game..... alas you have beaten me.

Since the beginning of December, Jones has started 14 games. He's had a > .900 sv% in four of those games. He's won four of those games. And two of them were against LA, whom he always beats, regardless of how he's doing otherwise.

[MOD] I tend give the benefit of the doubt to professionals who actually, you know, assess these players in person and have degrees in their areas of expertise than random internet posters who think they know more than people who talk to the players and doctors every day.

Apparently you feel you can judge them without any of this knowledge or expertise.

Good luck with that.

Now if they kept playing Martin after it was obvious he was done I'd have a problem, but that complaint / fear made by many here never came true. How about some praise for the org for not doing that. When I see that then "maybe" I'll stop defending them at every turn, but since they get ZERO support here, I'll feel just fine standing up for them.

Your appeal to authority is not moving. This is a message board. You want people to stop posting opinions because we don't talk to the players every day? If you have a problem with conjecture, speculation, and opinions, this probably isn't the place for you.

I complimented the Sharks and Pete Deboer specifically for their cautious treatment of Couture's head injury mere weeks ago. But you were nowhere to be found. But yeah. ZERO support.

 

[Bleedred]

After tonight, any chance Grosenick is playing tomorrow?

I'd go back to Dell.

Giving Grosenick a start under different circumstances would be fine, but with the tight-ish race in the division and a divisional opponent that's won a couple games recently, I think it makes sense to go back to Dell for this one. I think Dell is going again, but not sure if confirmed, but I'd bet money on it.

Actually, it has been comfirmed, in a post by you haha. I missed that before I replied!

 

[OrrNumber4]

This isn't the 70s anymore. If the player wants to play, the coach really can't stop him, especially if it is a borderline injury.

I'm sure Jones is feeling threatened by Dell.

 

[Bleedred]

This isn't the 70s anymore. If the player wants to play, the coach really can't stop him, especially if it is a borderline injury.

I'm sure Jones is feeling threatened by Dell.

He should be feeling threatened by Dell, his play has been atrocious for close to 2 months. If we randomly cherrypick those performances against the Kings, it looks even uglier.

If he's got a legitimate injury, they shouldn't be allowing him to play though. Especially since he's a long term investment. If he has nagging soreness, which everybody does at this point, that's one thing, but if he has a legitimate injury, they really shouldn't be allowing him to play.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Jones has a guaranteed long-term high money contract. Dell is a UFA at the end of the season. What does he think is going to happen?

 

[LadyStanley]

@SolidSnake sounds like decision is to play Dell against Ducks. Mentioned during last night's broadcast

 

[OrrNumber4]

Jones has a guaranteed long-term high money contract. Dell is a UFA at the end of the season. What does he think is going to happen?

Of being usurped by Dell. The Sharks could easily re-sign Dell and then try to trade Jones.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Of being usurped by Dell. The Sharks could easily re-sign Dell and then try to trade Jones.

Jones has a partial NTC in which he would submit a 3-team trade list. The list could easily be “Rangers, Habs, Caps”. Then what? Do the Sharks play chicken and make him the backup with all that money they committed to him? If this past month is the real Jones (I don’t think it is, but for the sake of argument let’s say), we have a Pavelec, Ward situation on our hands.

I don’t think it’ll come to that but that’s how I think the situation would play out of Dell kept consistently outplaying Jones and the Sharks wanted to retain Dell.

 

[Saskatoon]

Jones has a partial NTC in which he would submit a 3-team trade list. The list could easily be “Rangers, Habs, Caps”. Then what? Do the Sharks play chicken and make him the backup with all that money they committed to him? If this past month is the real Jones (I don’t think it is, but for the sake of argument let’s say), we have a Pavelec, Ward situation on our hands.

I don’t think it’ll come to that but that’s how I think the situation would play out of Dell kept consistently outplaying Jones and the Sharks wanted to retain Dell.

He could also pull a Fleury and waive to be a starter rather than a backup... not guaranteed but hypothetically possible