Is Connor Hellebuyck tracking to be a HHOFer?

[Xerloris]

Fleury wasn't even the best goalie on his team for 2 of those 3 Cups...

They don't ask how, they ask how many.

 

[Bring Bak Damphousse]

They don't ask how, they ask how many.

Chris Osgood would like a word

 

[RJMA]

2 vezinas (which he'll now have) + 400 wins should get him in

Only 3 goalies have ever achieved that: Belfour, Roy, Brodeur.

Bobrovsky is 4 wins away.

 

[RJMA]

Chris Osgood would like a word

Osgood has 400 wins and 2 Cups as a starter. Only Fuhr, Hall, Plante Sawchuk, Belfour, Brodeur, Roy have done the same.

 

[Outl4w]

2 vezinas (which he'll now have) + 400 wins should get him in

Only 3 goalies have ever achieved that: Belfour, Roy, Brodeur.

Bobrovsky is 4 wins away.

Apparently putting up Gretzky and Lemieux numbers as the third player in the history of the NHL to ever have 40 plus goals and 100 assist in the same season isn't even MVP numbers. So since he is russian they will probably won't let him in . His accomplishments and stats should make him a first ballot HOF goalie.

 

[Voight]

I'm not a huge MAF fan but 3 cups, 4 finals appearances, 2nd all time in wins. Ya that's HHOF worthy.

Yea, Hellebuyck could have had more wins behind those guys than MAF but he didn't.


Never seen anything more HHOF worthy in my life.

Not really. He was the starter for one of those cups (and really wasn't even that good in 2009, sans his secret service save). He was an a absolute pumpkin 2010-2015 and it's no coincidence the Pens didn't win another cup until they benched him for Murray.

Second all time in wins? Congrats, he racked up a bunch of wins playing with two of the top three players of his era. He was nominated for the Vezina literally once in his career and arguably wasn't even the best goalie that year.

 

[Fatass]

Nope. Got to carry his club in the playoffs.

 

[Xerloris]

Not really. He was the starter for one of those cups (and really wasn't even that good in 2009, sans his secret service save). He was an a absolute pumpkin 2010-2015 and it's no coincidence the Pens didn't win another cup until they benched him for Murray.

Second all time in wins? Congrats, he racked up a bunch of wins playing with two of the top three players of his era. He was nominated for the Vezina literally once in his career and arguably wasn't even the best goalie that year.

That's the thing though. No one asks how it happened, they only care that it did. Jake Allen is still a Cup Champion no matter how you look at it and that's all that matters at the end of the day.

 

[jigglysquishy]

That's the thing though. No one asks how it happened, they only care that it did. Jake Allen is still a Cup Champion no matter how you look at it and that's all that matters at the end of the day.

This thread is literally people asking how it happened.

Fleury getting benched for a rookie during the Cup win is a huge part of his legacy.

 

[Bear of Bad News]

Jake Allen is still a Cup Champion no matter how you look at it and that's all that matters at the end of the day.

In any HHOF conversations, people do rightly distinguish between Cups won as a starter and Cups won as a backup who played 24 minutes during the playoffs.

 

[Xerloris]

In any HHOF conversations, people do rightly distinguish between Cups won as a starter and Cups won as a backup who played 24 minutes during the playoffs.

Do the people that make the decisions or the people that post on forums like us?

 

[Bear of Bad News]

Do the people that make the decisions or the people that post on forums like us?

I don't think anyone making the decisions is considering Jake Allen for the HHOF at this point.

 

[Voight]

That's the thing though. No one asks how it happened, they only care that it did. Jake Allen is still a Cup Champion no matter how you look at it and that's all that matters at the end of the day.

... not when the selection committee decides who they are going to induct.

Do the people that make the decisions or the people that post on forums like us?

Pat Maroon for the hall of fame then?

 

[Jets]

Unfortunately Hellebuyck has gained a bit of a reputation for not being a great playoff performer and this season has been no different. Until he can get over his playoff demons and become a difference maker that carries some wins that aren’t deserved, he won’t be a HOFer in a lot of fans eyes.

 

[613Leafer]

Yes - has a Vezina and two other top 3 Vezina finishes (plus finished 4th another year), and will almost certainly win the Vezina this year.

He's definitely on track.

 

[Xerloris]

... not when the selection committee decides who they are going to induct.



Pat Maroon for the hall of fame then?

Can you not tell the difference between Pat Maroon and MAF? No one goes into the HOF only because they won a cup, like Pat but trying to take away someones cup wins because they were a back up goalie is what doesn't matter. They still won them.

 

[Bring Bak Damphousse]

Osgood has 400 wins and 2 Cups as a starter. Only Fuhr, Hall, Plante Sawchuk, Belfour, Brodeur, Roy have done the same.

And he’s the only one of them not in the hall.

 

[Coffey]

And he’s the only one of them not in the hall.

How are his individual trophies compared to theirs?

 

[BCNate]

A few more years at this level and he is a lock.

 

[MXD]

Osgood has 400 wins and 2 Cups as a starter. Only Fuhr, Hall, Plante Sawchuk, Belfour, Brodeur, Roy have done the same.

And the only thing at which he was better at than all those netminder is at being a redhead.

 

[Andreas Ferrari]

My grandmother could have better stats than that.

And while I'm here Nik Elhers has a grand total of 4 goals in 34 playoff games.

If I was the GM they would be gone before next season.

 

[Bear of Bad News]

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My grandmother could have better stats than that.

And while I'm here Nik Elhers has a grand total of 4 goals in 34 playoff games.

If I was the GM they would be gone before next season.

Yeah, we did this a few pages ago (in fairness, the other guy managed to only post the picture once.)

Sounds like a lot of teams could use your grandmother in net, however.

 

[nhlfan9191]

A few more years at this level and he is a lock.

He’s already a lock. He’s been a top 5 goalie for a 7 year stretch and counting. Will likely have multiple Vezina’s with multiple other seasons where he received votes. Playoff success isn’t going to be weighed as heavy for goalies brought in during the 30-32 team era. It’s incredibly hard to win cups now. Luongo broke the playoff success wall as far as goalies needing to be considered clutch to get into the HHOF.

 

[Voight]

Can you not tell the difference between Pat Maroon and MAF? No one goes into the HOF only because they won a cup, like Pat but trying to take away someones cup wins because they were a back up goalie is what doesn't matter. They still won them.

Sure, but there's a massive difference between being a passenger and being the guy.

MAF was only "the guy" for one of his cups wins, or one and a half if you include 2017. & he wasn't even that good in 2009, its not like he put up some historic performance.

 

[Ossific]

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My grandmother could have better stats than that.

And while I'm here Nik Elhers has a grand total of 4 goals in 34 playoff games.

If I was the GM they would be gone before next season.

After you get rid of Hellebyuck and Ehlers, you will have some decent capspace to sign your grandmother with.