If you could make a realistic trade who would you bring in?

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

It's plain to see that he has more to offer. He flashed it in the 2nd half of the 18-19 season and when he was healthy in the 19-20 season.

If he were scoring at a 30+ goal clip for us he wouldn't be discussed as potential trade bait.

True statements, but maybe he should be traded as soon he starts producing well again & raises his value to '19-'20 levels. He's way too inconsistent, which is now way worse considering $5.7/4yrs. I bet SY trades him within 1 year from now.

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

I won't be mad if we draft 2nd overall in 2022 or even as far back as 4th in 2021. I think this year's draft the value of #1 to #5 are very close to equivalent.

That said, I think at this point I'm for trading Mantha for a pick and a player coming back that's a pending UFA.

I can see teams in the North division looking to add a player like Mantha. Montreal and Edmonton would be good fits.
What could each team offer?

We'd have to take Loui Ericksson back from Vancouver to make any moves. I also don't think that Mantha moves the needle for that team much but they do need another legit top 6 winger.
What could we get from Vancouver?

From VAN I'd want Boeser, but they'd likely decline. Though I've read he or JTM may be lost in ED, so who knows. They wouldn't trade us Bo-rvat, though he'd be my 1st ask. If Loui was included, we should be able to get Boeser+1st?

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

From VAN I'd want Boeser, but they'd likely decline. Though I've read he or JTM may be lost in ED, so who knows. They wouldn't trade us Bo-rvat, though he'd be my 1st ask. If Loui was included, we should be able to get Boeser+1st?

I don't think Van gives us a top 6 player for one of ours, but who knows? They may be so elated to get rid of Ericksson's contract they'll give him to us.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

If you trade Mantha it must only be for a younger
- top 6 center
- top 3 LHD
- 1st rd pick

Anything else is just a waste

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

If you trade Mantha it must only be for a younger
- top 6 center
- top 3 LHD
- 1st rd pick

Anything else is just a waste

I agree w/Top6 C & Top3 LHD. The 1st is a sweetener to me, unless it's a top 3-ish pick. If over the next 1yr (hopefully a lot sooner though) Mantha asserts himself & raises his value back up to '19-'20 levels, I wouldn't wanna wait on that perfect scenario to play out for the (2C/Top3LD). That's why I'm in favor of Boeser+1st+Loui for Mantha. Brock is very consistent, though also injured frequently. He's one of a few exceptions to that scenario I'd consider.

I'm heavily in favor of Hanifin+Monahan for Mantha+ '21 1st (1OA protected). I see that to be very fair for both teams. @Zetterberg4Captain What's your feedback on these trades? Any other trades in mind?

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

If you trade Mantha it must only be for a younger
- top 6 center
- top 3 LHD
- 1st rd pick

Anything else is just a waste

And to be clear I dont mean all 3 in return

 

[Gniwder]

I think Mantha does need a change of scenery. The problem with being on a loser team is that you feel you're working hard and losing anyways. It's understandably demoralizing, and he doesn't appear to have the mental fortitude to cope with it like Larkin and Bert.

I would put the BLM line back together to increase his trade value then ship him to a playoff team. Whatever reasonable return Stevie can get.

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

I think Mantha does need a change of scenery. The problem with being on a loser team is that you feel you're working hard and losing anyways. It's understandably demoralizing, and he doesn't appear to have the mental fortitude to cope with it like Larkin and Bert.

I would put the BLM line back together to increase his trade value then ship him to a playoff team. Whatever reasonable return Stevie can get.

Maybe Mantha said all the right things before & after signing his contract about wanting to be a RW long-term, but his on ice play/stats/eyeball test don't match it. Guess he couldn't say anything else though at the time, as he wanted to get paid fairly. No excuse for his current play though. I'd ask him if he wants to get traded.

 

[Hatter of the Beach]

Wouldn’t mind us finding a way to get Virtanen if he’s available for like a 5th. His hockey sense and head may not be enough to be anything but a bottom 6er but he did have a decent season last year and hits anything that moves

 

[Hatter of the Beach]

Hypothetical but what would you be willing to give up for Nolan Patrick?
injuries and concussions have slowed his progress and likely stunted his top end potential but for a team desperate for young center depth, I could see him being a mid risk potentially high reward move.

 

[Hatter of the Beach]

Unsure of what Vegas is looking for so could be totally off base but I wouldn’t hate a deal similar to

to Vegas: Mantha

to Wings: 1 of Cody Glass/Krebs and a 2nd

 

[NDetroitFan]

Unsure of what Vegas is looking for so could be totally off base but I wouldn’t hate a deal similar to

to Vegas: Mantha

to Wings: 1 of Cody Glass/Krebs and a 2nd

This is an idea I’d be all over. Glass and Krebs are both highly regarded prospects, both play a position of need and both are much better age aligned with the Zadina/ Seider/ Beggeren/ Raymond core that are likely going to be the drivers of the wings next competitive window

 

[DInTheB]

Without getting too into the weeds with paywall stuff, the Athletic trade board mentions that there is a belief Yzerman might deal one of Bertuzzi or Mantha

 

[raymond23]

Without getting too into the weeds with paywall stuff, the Athletic trade board mentions that there is a belief Yzerman might deal one of Bertuzzi or Mantha

Dealing Bert would be really sad

 

[MVPete96]

Without getting too into the weeds with paywall stuff, the Athletic trade board mentions that there is a belief Yzerman might deal one of Bertuzzi or Mantha

I just don’t see it. Bert has missed so much time and Mantha’s value is low right now.

 

[Shortstuff]

Unsure of what Vegas is looking for so could be totally off base but I wouldn’t hate a deal similar to

to Vegas: Mantha

to Wings: 1 of Cody Glass/Krebs and a 2nd

Mantha doesn’t get us glass IMO

 

[Shortstuff]

I’d take mantha for an early to mid 1st

 

[DInTheB]

I just don’t see it. Bert has missed so much time and Mantha’s value is low right now.

I would agree that Yzerman won’t sell low on either. My sense is he’s open to a deal for just about anyone, but he has a price it would take and he won’t be compelled to go lower than that price since he doesn’t have to.

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

Without getting too into the weeds with paywall stuff, the Athletic trade board mentions that there is a belief Yzerman might deal one of Bertuzzi or Mantha

Did they mean now? before/at TDL? offseason? next season?

 

[DInTheB]

Did they mean now? before/at TDL? offseason? next season?

Like before the deadline wouldn’t be shocking

 

[Ricelund]

Here's the quote from The Athletic:

Luke Glendening, Red Wings: He’s just about the perfect depth add for a team hoping to make a long playoff run. For a team high on skill but looking for an edge on their fourth line, Glendening might be the best option. He wins a ton of faceoffs and is miserable to play against. He’s also a pure rental. The more interesting speculation surrounds the younger Detroit forwards up the lineup. There’s also a belief that Red Wings GM Steve Yzerman would consider trading one of his younger forwards like Tyler Bertuzzi and Anthony Mantha in the right deal. “I wouldn’t be shocked if (Yzerman) moved one of his top young forwards,” said one exec. “I think he’s listening on a lot of things.”

 

[TCNorthstars]

Unsure of what Vegas is looking for so could be totally off base but I wouldn’t hate a deal similar to

to Vegas: Mantha

to Wings: 1 of Cody Glass/Krebs and a 2nd

What cap dump are the Wings taking? Vegas can't afford Mantha without a dump.

 

[19 for president]

Here's the quote from The Athletic:

I mean it does make sense. If he doesn't feel Bert/Mantha are top line players, then that sets back the Wings window. If the window is set back a couple of years, then it doesn't make sense to hold on to guys that probably will be at the tail end of their prime when we contend. I'd rather move Mantha than Bert as I think Bert fits in cap wise and compete wise better than Mantha does long term, and Bert has the type of game that normally elevates in the playoffs. I'd trade either for the right young center or D, because ultimately both are wingers.

My only untouchables remain Seider and Larkin. Hronek would require us to get a better dman coming back or it doesn't make sense from a depth perspective.

 

[Winger98]

Unless the return is massive, I'd be very surprised to see Bert moved.

 

[Rzombo4 prez]

Unless the return is massive, I'd be very surprised to see Bert moved.

I am with you. I think the organization may want to move on from Mantha notwithstanding the talent. Bert, however, is a much different story.