If Derek Lalonde can't win with 80M value roster, he needs to be fired.

[Henkka]

Simple as that.

Anyone agree with me?

The leash was short.

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[Snuggs]

Lots of good, experienced coaches on the sidelines.

 

[RRhoads]

I am for a coaching change.

 

[Frk It]

First month or so of the season I was pretty convinced he was the right guy for this team and where we were at.

Last month or so I’ve thought the opposite.

Ultimately I don’t know, I need to see how the rest of the season goes.

 

[RED WINGS STOMP]

It isn't going to happen. Not Yzerman's MO. Maybe after the season, but not with just under 50 games left. Too much season still to go. This team is capable of a run the other way as well.

 

[Ricelund]

Yzerman gave Boucher two full seasons in Tampa before cutting bait about halfway through his third year. Obviously not apples to apples, but I can't see him firing Lalonde in year two.

 

[theYman]

Yzerman gave Boucher two full seasons in Tampa before cutting bait about halfway through his third year. Obviously not apples to apples, but I can't see him firing Lalonde in year two.

Seem to work for the Wild and Oilers earlier in the year

 

[dj4aces]

Dude is a newer coach dealing with massive roster turnover from year to year. Definitely not in favor of firing him just yet.

I've watched some very bad hockey over the years. While what we've been seeing recently is frustrating to watch, it doesn't come close to "burn it all down" territory that this sort of reaction implies. For now, Lalonde is fine, in my view.

If you wanna replace anyone, I'm fine with replacing the goalie coach. That's about it.

 

[WF19]

I second the goalie coach change maybe the defensive coach as well but for the first time in years the Wings don't have problems scoring goals.

 

[letsgowings9999]

The east is way too strong. We have no real future kids on the roster minus seider and raymond. Some bad contracts on the team and meh goaltending which was quite obvious

If anyone thought we'd be making the playoffs this season they should fire themselves

 

[Ulysses31]

lalondes leash is all of this yr n next season. summer 2025 earliest he could potentially be fired.

 

[SpookyTsuki]

I mean if we had a real goalie/decent d-core this team is a contender

3rd in league with goals scored

 

[norrisnick]

I mean if we had a real goalie/decent d-core this team is a contender

3rd in league with goals scored

There is plenty of talent on this team to not be this bad structurally/defensively.

Either the system sucks or the ability to get the players to follow said system sucks. Or both. Because it's obviously not a case of having both a good system and being good at having the players follow said system. It's some combination of Xs/Os and motivation/accountability. IE the basic components of coaching.

 

[Oddbob]

Yzerman gave Boucher two full seasons in Tampa before cutting bait about halfway through his third year. Obviously not apples to apples, but I can't see him firing Lalonde in year two.

This is my thought as well. Lalonde is getting to start at least next season, unless we imploded or something.

 

[ColdToiletSeats]

he's lost the room ... get Babcock on the phone Stevie

 

[FMichael]

he's lost the room ... get Babcock on the phone Stevie

Berube would be my 1st choice since Sutter is likely snowed in for the winter.

 

[RRhoads]

Get Larionov in the off season

 

[Pavels Dog]

There is plenty of talent on this team to not be this bad structurally/defensively.

Either the system sucks or the ability to get the players to follow said system sucks. Or both. Because it's obviously not a case of having both a good system and being good at having the players follow said system. It's some combination of Xs/Os and motivation/accountability. IE the basic components of coaching.

Defense/goaltending is pretty bad talent wise.

 

[norrisnick]

Defense/goaltending is pretty bad talent wise.

Not this bad, for the D anyway.

 

[Pavels Dog]

Not this bad, for the D anyway.

It's been pretty bad but looking through the league GA/GP it's not that easy to pick out teams that the Wings should definitely be better than, especially in light of the very real goaltending issues that account for some of the goals against.

 

[Sentinel]

I'm all for coaching change. IT of our players is a travesty. Our defensive system is non-existent. The blown multigoal leads are directly on the coach.

 

[DTR]

Lalonde is Yzerman’s guy. Firing him during his second year on the job is a bigger indictment on Yzerman than it is Lalonde.

The argument is also flawed. The roster costing 80 mil means nothing at all to me when 15 mil or so of the roster are awful players Yzerman signed.

 

[DoMakc]

I was only at games in Stockholm, and game versus Senators was actually pretty good example for this whole year. Red wings were actually much better team, they outplayed Senators significantly but they lost due to individual errors (Chiarot-Petry shitshow and Reimer/Larkin fail in overtime). They are pretty cohesive in the offensive zone, can sustain a good cycle and set up a shooter, they are pretty competent defeding against the cycle, they have a decent special team - all things coaching impacts most. I see the issues more on personel side of things. They have just one pairing that can be trusted against the best forward lines. They are not equipped to defend rush due limited mobility of their D not named Seider and Walman, they tend to give up rushes, due to their agressiveness, but also due to bad defensive awareness of a lot of forwards (Fabbri, Sprong, DeBrincat, Perron is to slow to care about that, Kostin, now Kane). Their goaltending does not doing them any favours, but i don't know much about it to blame coaching. I think the issues lay mostly in the roster construction - and here is Yzerman to blame. But in general i think people need to step back a little bit and remember where Red Wings were expected to be before season based on names, even after this horrible stretch, whic i don't think is representative for the season, they are in line with those expectations.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

he's lost the room ... get Babcock on the phone Stevie

The players need to also hold themselves accountable.

Maatta at fault for the first goal against Preds. Passing to Walman who was covered.
Petry at fault for the second for not covering his man coming in hot.
Compher at fault for 3rd with a bad pass to Ghost.
Walman partially at fault for bad clear attempt on the 4th. Larkin mostly at fault for just casually watching Nyquist by the net instead of getting in there to lift a f***ing stick.

Part coaching. Part lazy play and lack of attention to detail from the players. This team as a whole needs a come to Jesus meeting.

 

[jkutswings]

This season feels like Detroit made a deal with the devil during the summer:

I'll give you a top 5 offense...in exchange for a bottom 5 defense.

It's mind boggling to see them so prolific at one end of the ice and so inept at the other end.