If Boston loses to Florida, SHOULD they blow it up?

[who_me?]

Some teams think you need to be horrible for 5-10 years to draft top 10 and hope you can rebuild from there.
Some teams don't.

Chicago is a good example of the former.
Boston is a good example of the latter.

Only one of em is in the second round and playing above their heads

That's how you become the Thornton/Marleau-led San Jose Sharks. One of the best teams in the regular seasons but always choke in the playoffs.

If your "core" players continually don't give you Cup winning caliber perfomances, you need to chuck them and start over.

 

[Over the volcano]

Yeah, the core is what it is, but I wouldn't call it "young" considering they're all UFA age.


Don't understand why you brought the Blackhawks into discussion.. just seemed like a deflection.

They've been pretty horrible for the last 5-10 years with a bunch of top 10 picks to rebuild.

It's just a philosophy of the boom, rebuild and pray model that Boston hasn't had to resort to.

 

[KingsHockey24]

They just need some better depth guys and they'll be fine.

 

[RiverbottomChuck]

They literally just need two actual top 6 centers, easier said than done but that weakness is huge come playoff time when neutral zone battles, faceoffs, and clearing the puck are crucial.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Don't think any of the guys I mentioned are UFAs

Pastrnak is on a UFA deal
Marchand is on a UFA deal
Coyle is on a UFA deal
Zacha is on a UFA deal
McAvoy is on a UFA deal
Lindholm is on a UFA deal
Carlo is on a UFA deal
Forbort is on a UFA deal
Ullmark is on a UFA deal
DeBrusk turns UFA this offseason

Frederic is on an RFA deal for one more year, then UFA
Geekie is on an RFA deal
Brazeau is on a cheap deal for one more year, then UFA
Wotherspoon is on a cheap deal for one more year, then UFA
Swayman is an Arb-Eligible RFA this offseason

 

[Over the volcano]

Pastrnak is on a UFA deal
Marchand is on a UFA deal
Coyle is on a UFA deal
Zacha is on a UFA deal
McAvoy is on a UFA deal
Lindholm is on a UFA deal
Carlo is on a UFA deal
Forbort is on a UFA deal
DeBrusk turns UFA this offseason

Frederic is on an RFA deal for one more year, then UFA
Geekie is on an RFA deal
Brazeau is on a cheap deal for one more year, then UFA
Wotherspoon is on a cheap deal for one more year, then UFA
Swayman is an Arb-Eligible RFA this offseason

Yuh

2 of those 14 guys were the ones I mentioned.

But sure, whatever point you were making about Boston's young core is super clever.

You'd be better off finding some prospect list that has Boston at the bottom of the league again.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Yuh

2 of those 14 guys were the ones I mentioned.

But sure, whatever point you were making about Boston's young core is super clever.

You'd be better off finding some prospect list that has Boston at the bottom of the league again.

Look if you don't want to participate in the discussion, that is fine. I'm not sure why you are just throwing around insults instead of engaging substantively.

"Good young core" is a phrase that has meaning. Dissecting that down, to "good", "young" and "core" at least from my perspective reveals that the players Boston has do not fit that criteria. I would say they have a good prime-aged core, and some respectably solid "young-ish" depth pieces. If you disagree with that statement, please feel free to do so, but throwing out phrases that were never stated accomplishments nothing.

 

[who_me?]

They just need some better depth guys and they'll be fine.

On the contrary, they don't have any game breakers... Conn Smythe type of performers.

 

[My3Sons]

Teams don’t blow it up unless they are forced to do so. They are playing well all season and they might lose in the second round of the playoffs. That’s hardly concerning.

 

[Chaos2k7]

What's to blow up?

Trade Marchand, Pastrnak, Swayman or McAvoy... nope.

This was supposed to be a transition year and it is.

Bunch of cap space next year, good young core developing, they're killing the retool.

Agreed they have a much easier path to retool than either TB or TOR

 

[Duke749]

Nah, they just gotta find the right mix after their top stars. A lot of teams just happen to catch lightning in a bottle. Not to take away their talent.

 

[BTO]

Yes. But can we blow it up by Sunday?

 

[Over the volcano]

Look if you don't want to participate in the discussion, that is fine. I'm not sure why you are just throwing around insults instead of engaging substantively.

"Good young core" is a phrase that has meaning. Dissecting that down, to "good", "young" and "core" at least from my perspective reveals that the players Boston has do not fit that criteria. I would say they have a good prime-aged core, and some respectably solid "young-ish" depth pieces. If you disagree with that statement, please feel free to do so, but throwing out phrases that were never stated accomplishments nothing.

The point is they have a good core of young and younger players to build around that they don't need to "blow it up" for draft picks and a rebuild. You mentioned like 15 players who have nothing to do with that and started talking UFA contracts, which I'm sure has something to do with something, but it sure isn't about the Bruins having to blow anything up.

 

[WarriorofTime]

The point is they have a good core of young and younger players to build around that they don't need to "blow it up" for draft picks and a rebuild. You mentioned like 15 players who have nothing to do with that and started talking UFA contracts, which I'm sure has something to do with something, but it sure isn't about the Bruins having to blow anything up.

I listed the Bruins.. 15 most important players? Not sure I understand your objection to my post in relation to yours or what you feel I misrepresented. I can edit my post to note the Bruins 23 year old #6 Defenseman is on a cheap deal for one more year and then RFA, as I think that was the only player the post you had mentioned that I didn't include, if you prefer.

 

[TD Charlie]

I’d get a new coach, and listen to offers on everybody with the exception of Swayman. I wouldn’t say I’d be looking purposely to blow it up though

 

[Oneiro]

Their young guys aren't of the magnitude to build a winner.

Their management never respected the value of top end playmaking and it's bitten them in the ass over and over. Now, the "culture" isn't enough.

 

[Matty Sundin]

last two game has been what everyone expected this series to be. They really just need a retool after taking a step back from last year due to Bergeron retirement and a lot of key players gone due to being cap strapped this season for it.

 

[Plural]

Ok now, let's relax 1 Cup in 50 years... I'm not a personification of the Chicago Blackhawks.

He's just cranky about the loss.

 

[danpantz]

Blow what up?

They have a ton of cap space this offseason without any big pieces to resign besides Swayman. Trade Ullmark.

This was always going to be a bridge year.

 

[Over the volcano]

He's just cranky about the loss.

Talk about deflection

 

[ViD]

What is wrong with people “blowing up” teams that easily make play offs and even progress a round or two.

They’re perfectly fine where they are, need some tiny adjustments in problematic positions

 

[The Hockey Tonk Man]

No.
It would be such a long rebuild

 

[Plural]

Talk about deflection

Yeah, I'm deflecting and you're being non-hostile.

 

[CheerstoBeers]

Blow it up how?. Really not much to blow up. Pasta, McAvoy, Swayman and a mix of young guys like Lauko, Brazeau and Lohrei aren't going anywhere. The team is more of a mix of the core and youth and a rag tag bunch of has-beens who had nowhere else to play. Maroon, Heinen, Shattenkirk, Heinen JVR, all see ya later. Bring in a real #1 C, retool around the core, trade Ullmark and we're good. No blowing it up necessary.

 

[hangman005]

I think at one point or another we have all fantasized about blowing florida up but seems a bit extreme over hockey right?