STATS TIME
For Mr. Andrew Ladd:
Looking at all forwards last season just for even strength who played 40+ games... regardless of position, regardless of ease/difficulty of job/usage/minutes, and regardless of good/bad luck...
(out of 368, which equals ~12 per each of the 30 teams)
137th in points per minute
*some people behind him: Ryan Callahan, Jeff Carter, Mike Richards, Daniel Briere, Bryan Little, Dany Heatley, Ryan Kesler, Ryan Getlaf
35th in goals per minute (also 24th in shots on goal per game so you know it's not because of luck)
*some people behind him: Rick Nash, Jeff Skinner, Scott Hartnell, Alex Ovechkin, Claude Giroux, Zach Parise, Jarome Iginla, Corey Perry, Daniel Sedin, David Krejci, Ilya Kovalchuk, Milan Lucic, John Taveres, Joffrey Lupul
So even though Ladd actually faced pretty decent competition levels (more than many above him in the points/60 and a few above him in the goals/60), he still put up numbers that shows he IS NOT a 3rd liner.
Let's look at how he did relative those with similarly tough his job was... Looking at all NHL LWers who faced more than 40 games and mostly faced top6 competition levels (>0.300 RelCorsiQoC for stats nerds)...
36th in points per minute
10th in goals per minute
10th in Corsi (out-chancing their opponent)
2nd in RelCorsi (relative to team average to reduce the affect of being on a strong/weak team)
Here's a really statsy one... Looking at forwards who played: 40+ games, more than 1.5 pts per 60 mins, faced high-end competition (>0.300 RelQoC), and highly out-chanced their opponents (>5 Corsi and >5 RelCorsi) and not pushed into the offensive zone for more than 60% of their shifts (AKA the Sedin offense cheating)
You only get 38 names, which I would say are the most effective two-way forwards... in order of goal scoring they are:
Vrbata, Benn, Marchand, Seguin, Steen, Hornqvist, Voracek,
Ladd, Hartnell, Giroux, Pavelski, Franzen, Perry, Lucic, Marleau, Couture, Zetterber, Sykora, Grabovski, Hall, Little, Whitney, Datsyuk, PBergeron, Landeskog, Kopitar, Kennedy, Downie, Williams, Backes, Thornton, Brown, Jagr, O'Reilly, Wheeler, Hanzal, Ott
He does have his weaknesses...
He was one of our worst forwards for giveaways (but his decent takeaways help negate some of that).
He does take a lot of penalties per minutes (but he also draws a lot of penalties to negate that).
I did a very indepth breakdown of everyone of our regular players last season... you can find it if you click ->
HERE<- each name is a link to that players breakdown.