Negan4Coach
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I'm pretty sure they don't get American geography- not realizing that Houston and Dallas, although being in the same state, are as far apart as Washington, DC. and Raleigh.
Hurricanes sale formally closed, Tom Dundon now majority owner
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I'm pretty sure they don't get American geography- not realizing that Houston and Dallas, although being in the same state, are as far apart as Washington, DC. and Raleigh.
YoungGuns
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If they were "locked out", then why would they put their application on hold? Wouldn't it have been made clear that QC bid was flat out rejected, and must reapply. I don't recall anybody saying they must reapply.
"We are impressed by the application that was put forward by Quebecor on behalf of Quebec City and that's why the application wasn't rejected, it was deferred at least for the time being." - Gary Bettman
In either case, as most of us have suspected for a long time, QC likely only ever gets a team via relocation unless the league opts to go for 34 teams.
bluedevil58
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On this day 12/07/2017 we can officially put these Hurricane to Quebec city rumors to an end. It's over with QC, you are not getting the hurricanes.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Ernie
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For a while, at least. These rumours will never die as long as the Hurricanes keep drawing as poorly as they do.
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As soon as the sale is finalized, Karmanos can go crazy all he wants. He'll be a minority owner, which makes it even easier to get rid of him now.
As for the sale? It appears to be imminent so don't hold your breath.
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Dundon could finance and build himself an arena in Raleigh, or even the local government could build a new arena with a sweetheart lease for 50 years, and Canadian media would still be writing about potential relocation so you aren't saying much.
Yes, it is imminent. Truly imminent. Two weeks away for sure. Maximum.
Sorry for my cynicism, but until money has changed bank accounts I'll stay extremely sceptical.
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This obsessive nature and bitterness that some have towards certain NHL teams and where they should be relocated to is amazing. It's got to be unhealthy.
I don't see this kind of mindset from most NBA/MLB/NFL fans.
I don't see this kind of mindset from most NBA/MLB/NFL fans.
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HisIceness
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You know there will still be people out there who will refuse to believe this. It doesn't fit their agenda and therefore is not true. Hopefully on this board the "Canes to Quebec" posts will finally stop, and also "Canes to Houston/Seattle". Can't help the idiots on Twitter though, and there are many of them.
Mightygoose
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A 7 year non-relocation agreement signed per Frank Seravelli.
This would exceed the lease unless it's reto-active to the start of the season.
Should get the rubber stamp next month IMO. Then this is DunDone....sorry I couldn't resist
This would exceed the lease unless it's reto-active to the start of the season.
Should get the rubber stamp next month IMO. Then this is DunDone....sorry I couldn't resist
the halleJOKEL
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i need to hear that bettman quote rather than read it because i bet based on his inflection you can tell he is actually saying the opposite of what his words mean
CorbeauNoir
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Because it's a small element of an overarching national attitude. Sorry, I'm just going to say it since I've had 30 years of being born into and directly surrounded by it by this point: Canadians have some of the biggest inferiority complexes of anyone I've come across. If you're incapable of defining any facet of your existence without feeling compelled to frame it as a direct comparable against a solitary, foreign country, what does that say about your own identity? I find it humiliating, honestly.
Honestly. I thought if we would get a relocated team to Houston that it would be the Coyotes or the Flames because of realignment issues.
Given how fast this deal appears to be closing can we now agree that the reason the Greenberg deal was taking so long wasn't because it was "complicated"
No Fun Shogun
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Call me paranoid, but something about this smells like haphazard arrangement to me. Time to take out my crazy jump to conclusion mat:
Observation #1 - With an expansion team having been purchased for $500 million in the recent past, in all likelihood the NHL was under pressure to not allow any franchise to be sold for under that amount, a value likely exceeding what some of the lower earners would've reasonably expected to sell for on the open marked previously. See the sales price for the Thrashers six and a half years ago, a comparatively scant $170 million.
Observation #2 - With the proposed split in ownership potential, one could make the argument that the prospective sales prices might've been closer to $250 million as the most that they could expect from local buyers given the financial realities of the team. We saw this drag out significantly in Carolina possibly as a result as well, with potential buyers hoping to haggle and Karmanos on a strict floor he couldn't go below
Observation #3 - The NHL has already announced that an expansion team would be worth $650 million for Seattle, making a likely new minimum sales price $150 million higher down the road.
Paranoid conclusion - It could be said that with these points in mind, the current and future owner(s) of the Canes could view this as a short term arrangement with the knowledge that they'd have half of a split for a $150 million bump in franchise value when Seattle joins the league, creating an almost guaranteed profit if they choose to sell the team down the line.
So yeah, I found a way to turn what should be universally viewed as good news for the longevity as Carolina in a stupidly insidious light. You're welcome?
Observation #1 - With an expansion team having been purchased for $500 million in the recent past, in all likelihood the NHL was under pressure to not allow any franchise to be sold for under that amount, a value likely exceeding what some of the lower earners would've reasonably expected to sell for on the open marked previously. See the sales price for the Thrashers six and a half years ago, a comparatively scant $170 million.
Observation #2 - With the proposed split in ownership potential, one could make the argument that the prospective sales prices might've been closer to $250 million as the most that they could expect from local buyers given the financial realities of the team. We saw this drag out significantly in Carolina possibly as a result as well, with potential buyers hoping to haggle and Karmanos on a strict floor he couldn't go below
Observation #3 - The NHL has already announced that an expansion team would be worth $650 million for Seattle, making a likely new minimum sales price $150 million higher down the road.
Paranoid conclusion - It could be said that with these points in mind, the current and future owner(s) of the Canes could view this as a short term arrangement with the knowledge that they'd have half of a split for a $150 million bump in franchise value when Seattle joins the league, creating an almost guaranteed profit if they choose to sell the team down the line.
So yeah, I found a way to turn what should be universally viewed as good news for the longevity as Carolina in a stupidly insidious light. You're welcome?
ucanthanzalthetruth
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I would just like to welcome Hurricanes fans to the not relocating for the foreseeable future group with the Florida Panthers.
The pros: you get to watch your hockey team for a few more worry free years
The cons: you're still watching your hockey team for several more years
The pros: you get to watch your hockey team for a few more worry free years
The cons: you're still watching your hockey team for several more years
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Flames to Quebec or Houston pls. Heck even Kansas City, st.paul, Salt Lake City, Portland, New Orleans whatever, who cares. Oilers need more of the 'Berta pie.
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I would just like to welcome Hurricanes fans to the not relocating for the foreseeable future group with the Florida Panthers.
The pros: you get to watch your hockey team for a few more worry free years
The cons: you're still watching your hockey team for several more years
Both teams are in similar situations. Both have tons of young talent, but can never seem to get over that hump to be perennial contenders. Being able to spend money is important though.
I watch a lot of hockey games. If the Rangers aren't playing, I will usually flip around betweeen 2-3 different games every night. Maybe you get a special camera in your package, but when I watch games, the cameras are focused on the ice and I am not really concerned with how many people are in the arena if I am watching on tv. I have also been to many games. Most with packed houses. A few times with the place 1/2 empty. There are benefits when it is 1/2 empty. Short bathroom lines, much easier getting in and out of the parking lot, etc.
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