Hronek 8th in Scoring among NHL Blueliners

[MBH]

Nice start for Filip Hronek.
He somehow became the target of a lot of hate among the Red Wings' podcasters/bloggers and their followers.
He is what he is.
A good to perhaps excellent offensive defenseman who has his limits defensively.
Pretty impressive company for Hronek.

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[Shultzyfeelinirie25]

Isn't he only 25 still ? a few years ago he was playing as our number 1 he just isn't that. Stick him on 2nd pair and he's coming into his own and just coming into his prime years for a Defenseman.

 

[jaster]

We Hronek defenders got battered around pretty good by his haters in recent years, but it was always clear that Hronek was being deployed in a role that was too big of him, solely because Detroit lacked a true #1 guy. Hronek is underrated defensively, but he can't fill a shut-down role, obviously. Once Hronek could get pushed down the lineup slightly, and paired with someone who could actually complement his game, he'd flourish to some degree. The offensive ability has always been there, the IQ, the high panic threshold, and the compete level. A solid profile for a guy who's undersized and sometimes over-matched defensively.

His play this year surprises me not at all. It's essentially what I've always expected (maybe not top-10 in points, though I also don't expect that to last through 82 games) Hronek to do if deployed correctly, with the right support.

There were rumors he was unhappy last year with his role, but I would guess, if true, that is no longer the case given his newfound success under Lalonde. Hopefully we re-sign the guy.

 

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

We Hronek defenders got battered around pretty good by his haters in recent years, but it was always clear that Hronek was being deployed in a role that was too big of him, solely because Detroit lacked a true #1 guy. Hronek is underrated defensively, but he can't fill a shut-down role, obviously. Once Hronek could get pushed down the lineup slightly, and paired with someone who could actually complement his game, he'd flourish to some degree. The offensive ability has always been there, the IQ, the high panic threshold, and the compete level. A solid profile for a guy who's undersized and sometimes over-matched defensively.

His play this year surprises me not at all. It's essentially what I've always expected (maybe not top-10 in points, though I also don't expect that to last through 82 games) Hronek to do if deployed correctly, with the right support.

There were rumors he was unhappy last year with his role, but I would guess, if true, that is no longer the case given his newfound success under Lalonde. Hopefully we re-sign the guy.

Hronek is just a Great Value Keith Yandle. In pretty much every way. He's not as good offensively as Yandle was nor as bad defensively.

 

[norrisnick]

We Hronek defenders got battered around pretty good by his haters in recent years, but it was always clear that Hronek was being deployed in a role that was too big of him, solely because Detroit lacked a true #1 guy. Hronek is underrated defensively, but he can't fill a shut-down role, obviously. Once Hronek could get pushed down the lineup slightly, and paired with someone who could actually complement his game, he'd flourish to some degree. The offensive ability has always been there, the IQ, the high panic threshold, and the compete level. A solid profile for a guy who's undersized and sometimes over-matched defensively.

His play this year surprises me not at all. It's essentially what I've always expected (maybe not top-10 in points, though I also don't expect that to last through 82 games) Hronek to do if deployed correctly, with the right support.

There were rumors he was unhappy last year with his role, but I would guess, if true, that is no longer the case given his newfound success under Lalonde. Hopefully we re-sign the guy.

Well, he got bumped off the PP last season and not this season. He's already eclipsed his PP production from last year.

 

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

Well, he got bumped off the PP last season and not this season. He's already eclipsed his PP production from last year.

That is something good that your D can do. Outdo their PP Performance from the last time when it was disappointing.

 

[norrisnick]

That is something good that your D can do. Outdo their PP Performance from the last time when it was disappointing.

He's getting basically a full minute more PP TOI per game and with the top unit guys which now include Perron and Kubalik.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

I like him better this season for not shitting the bed.

I’d like him better if he kept the handlebars.

Don’t @ me @Frk It .

 

[jaster]

Well, he got bumped off the PP last season and not this season. He's already eclipsed his PP production from last year.

Yep. This point also made me curious to see how his ES points stack up compared to previous years....

'18-19 - 46 gp - 18 pts - 0.39 pts/gp
'19-20 - 65 gp - 21 pts - 0.32 pts/gp
'20-21 - 56 gp - 15 pts - 0.27 pts/gp
'21-22 - 78 gp - 31 pts - 0.40 pts/gp
'22-23 - 24 gp - 12 pts - 0.50 pts/gp

Not sure how sustainable this year's rate is, I'll be interested to see how it looks at the end of the season, but it's a career-high rate so far anyway.

 

[Frk It]

I like him better this season for not shitting the bed.

I’d like him better if he kept the handlebars.

Don’t @ me @Frk It .

What jersey did you end up ordering of his? Home, Away, or a Winter Classic?

 

[dalem177]

I like him better this season for not shitting the bed.

I’d like him better if he kept the handlebars.

Don’t @ me @Frk It .

That was not a handlebar. That was a horseshoe or sort of a baby Fu Manchu:

 

[Frk It]

Hronek is just a Great Value Keith Yandle. In pretty much every way. He's not as good offensively as Yandle was nor as bad defensively.

You're a great value keith yandle!

On a serious note... my projected comp for Hronek (even prior to the NHL) was always the Carolina iteration of Justin Faulk... and I think those players are pretty 1:1. Faulk has gotten better defensively as he has gotten older, or maybe just since he went to St. Louis? Not sure, have not seen him as much the last few years.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

What jersey did you end up ordering of his? Home, Away, or a Winter Classic?

Santa is bringing me a Marco Kasper CHL jersey.

 

[MBH]

Hronek is just a Great Value Keith Yandle. In pretty much every way. He's not as good offensively as Yandle was nor as bad defensively.

Right. Yandle had no grit. Hronek at least battles.

You're a great value keith yandle!

On a serious note... my projected comp for Hronek (even prior to the NHL) was always the Carolina iteration of Justin Faulk... and I think those players are pretty 1:1. Faulk has gotten better defensively as he has gotten older, or maybe just since he went to St. Louis? Not sure, have not seen him as much the last few years.

Players should get better defensively with experience - so should Hronek.
I think Faulk is a bit more run and gun than Hronek.
I'd be pretty happy getting a Faulk in Hronek.

 

[MBH]

Santa is bringing me a Marco Kasper CHL jersey.

I have a Taylor Tarantulas ball hockey jersey if you want it.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

I have a Taylor Tarantulas ball hockey jersey if you want it.

 

[evolutionbaby]

I think after that covid season or an international tournament that he just dominated, expectations were very high and then last year was a dud

 

[Fil Larkmanthanasiou]

Nice start for Filip Hronek.
He somehow became the target of a lot of hate among the Red Wings' podcasters/bloggers and their followers.
He is what he is.
A good to perhaps excellent offensive defenseman who has his limits defensively.
Pretty impressive company for Hronek.

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He also has the best +/- among the top 10 scoring dmen

 

[Pavels Dog]

His play has been ridiculously good this season.

 

[Holden Caufield]

His play has been ridiculously good this season.

Indeed. Very bright future.
I never lost faith.

I don’t think Yzerman ever did either…
When Steve first got the job here, he was quick to identify Hronek as a building block.

Probably still viewed that way, despite all the outside noise about Hronek being useless or calls to ‘fire him into the sun’.

 

[14ari13]

Hronek has always been very good offensively, but this season he has been great. It is fun to watch him.
Hopefully Seider picks up his game so we can have 2 weapons.

 

[Obe2kenobe]

Yep. This point also made me curious to see how his ES points stack up compared to previous years....

'18-19 - 46 gp - 18 pts - 0.39 pts/gp
'19-20 - 65 gp - 21 pts - 0.32 pts/gp
'20-21 - 56 gp - 15 pts - 0.27 pts/gp
'21-22 - 78 gp - 31 pts - 0.40 pts/gp
'22-23 - 24 gp - 12 pts - 0.50 pts/gp

Not sure how sustainable this year's rate is, I'll be interested to see how it looks at the end of the season, but it's a career-high rate so far anyway.

He has 22 pts. This year for a .92 pts per game.

 

[norrisnick]

He has 22 pts. This year for a .92 pts per game.

The above is even strength production.

 

[Obe2kenobe]

The above is even strength production.

Oops. Missed that.