How long will it last? Are you pessimistic/optimisitic?
And who do you think will crack first?
And who do you think will crack first?
chriss_co said:I predict that this time, the players will crack. But it will take awhile.
The players will understand how much they are losing and that going back to work with a cap but earning several millions of dollars won't be so bad
go kim johnsson said:And the owners lose nothing? We don't know what the players have but the owners have a 'war chest' of $300 million.
That accounts to $10 million per team. Not a whole lot.
go kim johnsson said:And the owners lose nothing? We don't know what the players have but the owners have a 'war chest' of $300 million.
That accounts to $10 million per team. Not a whole lot.
Puckhead said:The lockout will last until January of 2006, at which point the owners if they can remain united will break the union, and get their cap. The players who rank some 700+ strong, cannot remain on the same page for a prolonged period of time and that is why they will crack and give in to most of what the owners want, yes even a cap. The players feel that if they wait until late Dec. that the owners, through fear of losing the rest of the season and more importantly the playoffs, will cave, as they did in '94. However, if the owners don't see major steps toward reviving the health of the game, why would they rush back. They look at the last work stoppage and wish they had done more to get control back from the players, and this time they are playing hard ball, because if they don't, there will not be enough of a game left to come back for in a couple of years. If the players force the issue, and lose the season and playoffs, then that will just make the owners that much more angry and determined to make sure this goes a long time. I think that the players will begin to speak out against the PA and will force their reps and higher ups to do whatever it takes to get a deal done. I feel Jan 2006 is about right, unless the players begin to lose their composure early, in which case Sept 2005. Either way, I feel this season is toast and damn them all for that!
chriss_co said:I predict that this time, the players will crack. But it will take awhile.
The players will understand how much they are losing and that going back to work with a cap but earning several millions of dollars won't be so bad
chapel113x said:I agree. The NHL has been preparing 5 years for this. If anyone is going to crack, its the NHPA I believe.
Another interesting note. John Davidson said on a radio show in Vancouver that he heard from a reliable source that the NHLPA was hoping that 4-5 teams would fold which account for the majority of the losses.
The union is hoping that 4-5 teams fold??? That's 100-125 jobs??? Interesting... Knob Goodenow could lose his job if that was his thinkning...chapel113x said:I agree. The NHL has been preparing 5 years for this. If anyone is going to crack, its the NHPA I believe.
Another interesting note. John Davidson said on a radio show in Vancouver that he heard from a reliable source that the NHLPA was hoping that 4-5 teams would fold which account for the majority of the losses.
I find it VERY hard to believe that the NHLPA is in favor of contraction. Like you say, why would they want to lose jobs for their members? That's not exactly doing them a service. Makes no sense.BLONG7 said:The union is hoping that 4-5 teams fold??? That's 100-125 jobs??? Interesting... Knob Goodenow could lose his job if that was his thinkning...
Sotnos said:I find it VERY hard to believe that the NHLPA is in favor of contraction. Like you say, why would they want to lose jobs for their members? That's not exactly doing them a service. Makes no sense.
chapel113x said:5 teams account for the majority of losses. I guess their thinking is: If those teams are gone we won't have to accept a salary cap because the losses won't be so dramatic.