How important is coaching in play offs?

[FirstRowUpperDeck]

Coaches control the mayhem on the bench. And please do not tell me there no mayhem on the bench during the game. We get this thread every couple of years asking if they actually need coaches at the bench.

Every coach I played had to make adjustments shift by shift. Either because our team was dictating the flow or adjusting to try to change the tempt.

Unrelated as this is about college football, but I remember when Mike White (then of Illinois) corralled his players after everyone was upset about some call against them. After pushing them back to the sideline, he said "It's my job to go nuts on the ref, not yours!" And then he did.

That said, I don't think it is black and white, but shades of gray, like perhaps an airline pilot, it is about reacting to unusual situations that come up. I still think player quality is about 80% of who wins, and about 20% boils down to coaching, unlucky bounces, or bad plays that the other team turns into goals, etc.

 

[joestevens29]

I have played and I do understand. But Kimmo has also played and I am sure understands also. Why would he say that if it was not true in that case? And he did not leave too much to speculate about. He was very clear. So I am just interested to see how others see It.


I thought about this also. But then again people are so easy to say that 'coach didn't react inside the game' and so on. Didn't Chicago need to chance anything or were the players and system so good that they were able to do It without?

Probably doesn't hurt that Chicago had such a good all around team with very good leadership. They all knew that if they stuck to a game plan they'd be okay.

Where coaching has the most impact is when you're original game plan isn't working and you have to adapt and adjust your game plan.

 

[POVERTY]

Very important.

Source: It's the 5th season of watching a Sheldon Keefe coached team show up like they didn't realize the playoffs had started.

 

[Givememoneyback]

Very important.

Source: It's the 5th season of watching a Sheldon Keefe coached team show up like they didn't realize the playoffs had started.

In game one, it appears Keefe or somebody came up with a game plan to check hard and often, it just didn't have the effect one would hope for. The problem with this, imo, is that such a style clashes with the systems that the Leafs played all year. You just can't switch your team's identity once the playoffs start.

 

[Bank Shot]

Al Arbour once said that 90% of coaching is getting off the bus with the better roster.

I think a generational coaching talent can make a difference, but most coaches cancel each other out.

 

[thaman8765678]

Look at the Kings with and without Sutter in playoffs.

Yes, it is very important.

 

[Givememoneyback]

Look at the Kings with and without Sutter in playoffs.

Yes, it is very important.

Their roster wasn't the same once Sutter left.

 

[The Red Line]

There's a lot more to coaching then what you tell the locker room before and after the game, come on.

 

[RebuildinVan]

Our last playoff appearance was 9 years ago with Willie D, who in the 3rd period of a game we were losing played Megma and Chaput more than the Sedins. Just stubborn AF ,digging in with his rolling four lines equal and PP schemes that didnt work. His coaching was tough to stomach

 

[T REX]

Scotty Bowman says very important.

 

[ACLEVERNAME]

Scotty Bowman says very important.

The guy being payed millions to open and close the bench door argues his 'job' is important. You don't say...

 

[Givememoneyback]

Scotty Bowman says very important.

He kind of got paid to say that.

 

[ACLEVERNAME]

If 'coaching' was that important, Mike Babcock would still be a powerhouse in this league. Instead we focus on 'being nice' and 'PC' instead of straight "x's and o's" and gameplan implementation. The modern NHLer wants and expects a baby sitter, not a 'coach'.

 

[Prettyisland]

If 'coaching' was that important, Mike Babcock would still be a powerhouse in this league. Instead we focus on 'being nice' and 'PC' instead of straight "x's and o's" and gameplan implementation. The modern NHLer wants and expects a baby sitter, not a 'coach'.

Mike Babcock is a very overrated coach. I think a better coach would have got more out of that Detroit era. They had the best dman of that generation and a very well balanced roster. I don’t really know what that last portion is directed towards