StoneHands
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Pannacio article.
I just tried reading this out loud and found my hands automatically doing air quotes when saying "article".
Pannacio article.
Another fabricated story that will be treated as fact to back up the anti-Holmgren bias...
Other reports from the time this was going on say the price was steep, but one comment from a hack years later is being taken as truth. JVR+, what's the plus? Read? Simmonds?
Taking into consideration JvR's past inconsistency and the more time it takes to have a D-man reach maturity, I would not at this time close the book and say that Toronto won the trade hands down... I would wait until their prime years with the teams are complete to decide on the outcome. That said, if JvR continues as he has this season and Luke doesn't step it up... it certainly will not have been a good deal for the Flyers.
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At the time of the trade, wasn't the general consensus that the Flyers needed more defensive D-men? Luke Schenn was that guy, Yandle wasn't. Right now the Flyers need more mobile D-men, but that wasn't the case when the trade was made. Hindsight is 20/20.
At the time of the trade, wasn't the general consensus that the Flyers needed more defensive D-men? Luke Schenn was that guy, Yandle wasn't. Right now the Flyers need more mobile D-men, but that wasn't the case when the trade was made. Hindsight is 20/20.
My memory might be a little hazy but I thought at the time we had Coburn and Grossmann and were looking for a puck moving d-man to eventually replace Timonen...
I think your memory is more than a little hazy. Just go back to look at the trade thread when it happened. Aside from typical overreactions (at least one person calling it the worst trade in history), most people are talking about how the Flyers needed defense not offense.
I'd also like to note how happy many people were that getting Schenn meant Carle was on the way out. I don't have time now but I'd like to go back and look to see if those are the same people who have talked about the mistake of letting Carle walk.
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1215313
JVR still kind of inconsistent. His production has trailed off over the past month or so (13 games)..and Luke's play has improved as of late.
Last 13 GAMES:
JVR:
2G 3A
LUKE SCHENN:
2G 2A
B SCHENN
3G 6A
I'll still undo that trade any day of the week. G on a line with JvR would have easily sparked more offensive production.
Hindsight is always 20-20. Oh well.
Doesn't JVR play with Kadri and Kessel? I would've thought he could've lucked into a few more assists playing with Kessel
blasphemy
I stand by my decision. I'm glad they let Carle walk and didn't give him that ridiculous amount of money.
I'm also fine with the way Schenn has been improving lately. I want to see him get a chance to develop.
You got a lot of nerve showing your face round these parts DB...
How's the TB board?
Yeah I wasn't too broken up about Carle leaving. I wanted to re-sign him but not at the money he wanted. I just remember him being a total whipping boy, then when he leaves a lot of people were criticizing Homer for failing to sign him. It would be interesting to see if the same people complaining about Carle were also the ones complaining about Homer not re-signing him.
Also I have no problem with Schenn. He hasn't been great by any means, but like most things around here, his struggles have been exaggerated. This fan base screams about patience, but they don't appear to have any for Luke Schenn the ancient 24-year old.
I'm sorry am I the only one who sees Luke Schenn as an average third pairing d-man? Even if he reaches his "potential" he'll be what? A hard hitting stay at home d-man? How is that worth 25 goal-50 point second line player?
I'm sorry am I the only one who sees Luke Schenn as an average third pairing d-man? Even if he reaches his "potential" he'll be what? A hard hitting stay at home d-man? How is that worth 25 goal-50 point second line player?