HOH Top European Non-NHL Players of All Time List & Voting Record - Batis

[Theokritos]

Round 1 List:

Rank|Name
1|Vyacheslav Fetisov
2|Sergey Makarov
3|Anatoly Firsov
4|Vladislav Tretiak
5|Valery Kharlamov
6|Jiří Holeček
7|Aleksandr Maltsev
8|Valery Vasiliev
9|Boris Mikhailov
10|Vladimír Martinec
11|Vladimir Krutov
12|Václav Nedomanský
13|Vladimir Petrov
14|Aleksey Kasatonov
15|Jan Suchý
16|František Pospíšil
17|Vladimír Zábrodský
18|Vsevolod Bobrov
19|Igor Larionov
20|Aleksandr Yakushev
21|Aleksandr Ragulin
22|Nikolay Sologubov
23|Helmuts Balderis
24|Milan Nový
25|Josef Maleček
26|Vyacheslav Starshinov
27|Veniamin Aleksandrov
28|Vladimir Lutchenko
29|Sven Tumba Johansson
30|Jiří Holík
31|Ulf Sterner
32|Lennart Svedberg
33|Vladimir Vikulov
34|Vitaly Davydov
35|Boris Mayorov
36|Viktor Shalimov
37|Vlastimil Bubník
38|Konstantin Loktev
39|Sergey Kapustin
40|František Tikal
41|Ivan Hlinka
42|Vladimír Dzurilla
43|Riccardo Torriani
44|Peter Lindmark
45|Ã…ke Andersson
46|Vladimír Růžička
47|Aleksandr Almetov
48|Vyacheslav Bykov
49|Aleksey Guryshev
50|Jiří Lála
51|Jozef Golonka
52|Igor Liba
53|Jiří Králík
54|Jiří Bubla
55|Leif Holmqvist
56|HÃ¥kan Loob
57|Tord Lundström
58|Yevgeny Babich
59|Ivan Tregubov
60|Nils Nilsson
61|Gustav Jaenecke
62|Erich Kühnhackl
63|Lars-Erik Sjöberg
64|Roland Stoltz
65|Viktor Konovalenko
66|Vasily Pervuhkin
67|Lars Björn
68|Jaroslav Jirkovský
69|Bohumil Modrý
70|Vladimir Shadrin

Players from our final top 50 not ranked in this top 50
Jozef Golonka at 51
Jiří Králík at 53
Jiří Bubla at 54
HÃ¥kan Loob at 56
Nils Nilsson at 60
Erich Kühnhackl at 62

Players unique to this list
None

Players ranked highest overall on this list
Vyacheslav Fetisov (tied with 8 others)
Jiří Holeček (tied with 2 others)

Players ranked 2nd highest on this list
Vladislav Tretiak
Vladimir Krutov (tied with 2 others)
Ulf Sterner
Konstantin Loktev (tied with 2 others)
Viktor Shalimov (tied with 1 other)
Vlastimil Bubník (tied with 1 other)
Ã…ke Andersson
Aleksey Guryshev (tied with 1 other)
Yevgeny Babich
Jaroslav Jirkovský

Players ranked lowest overall on this list
Vladimir Shadrin

Players ranked 2nd lowest on this list
Valery Kharlamov (tied with 1 other)
HÃ¥kan Loob (tied with 1 other)
Bohumil Modrý

Round 2 Voting:

Round|1st|2nd|3rd|4th|5th|6th|7th|8th|9th|10th|none
1|Makarov|Fetisov|Firsov|Kharlamov|Tretiak|Maltsev|Mikhailov|Martinec|||Vasiliev
2|Tretiak|Holeček|Maltsev|Mikhailov|Martinec|Vasiliev|Nedomanský|Petrov|
3|Holeček|Vasiliev|Krutov|Suchý|Nedomanský|Petrov|Kasatonov|Pospíšil|||Larionov
4|Krutov|Suchý|Petrov|Kasatonov|Pospíšil|Yakushev|Larionov|Ragulin|||Nový
5|Bobrov|Yakushev|Larionov|Ragulin|Balderis|Nový|Tumba Johansson|Starshinov|||Ji.Holík, Svedberg
6|Bobrov|Zábrodský|Maleček|Sologubov|Ragulin|Balderis|Starshinov|Aleksandrov|Lutchenko|Ji.Holík|Svedberg, Hlinka
7|Sologubov|Maleček|Ragulin|Aleksandrov|Svedberg|Lutchenko|Kapustin|Hlinka|Dzurilla|Lindmark|Davydov, Shadrin
8|Maleček|Sterner|Lutchenko|Kapustin|Dzurilla|Lindmark|Davydov|Tikal|Almetov|Králík|Bubla, Liba, Loob, Shadrin
9|Sterner|Loktev|Almetov|Lindmark|Králík|Bubla|Loob|Lála|Tikal|Liba|Shadrin, Sjöberg
10|Vikulov|Bubník|Shalimov|Lindmark|Nilsson|Mayorov|Bubla|Králík|Lála|Tikal|Kühnackl, Liba, Shadrin, Sjöberg
11|Nilsson|Bykov|Golonka|Torriani|Králík|Lála|Modrý|Kühnhackl|Liba|Tikal|Ja.Holík, Shadrin, Sjöberg, Stoltz, Tsygankov

Higher than anyone else
Vote 2 - Holeček in 2nd
Vote 8 - Tikal in 8th
Vote 11 - Tikal in 10th

Lower than anyone else
Vote 3 - Pospíšil in 8th
Vote 7 - Hlinka in 8th
Vote 9 - Loob in 7th
Vote 11 - Kühnackl in 8th
Vote 11 - Ja.Holík (not ranked)

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[MXD]

I didn't follow the process that much, since I wasn't part of it, so my question might be a bit misguided (or just a the wrong place), but since it's the first list I'm seeing...

Was Kharlamov below Firsov a frequent occurrence? I noticed they finished respectively 3rd and 4th (instinctively, Id' have them 3rd and 5th), so I guess it a few people had them in this order.

 

[Theokritos]

Was Kharlamov below Firsov a frequent occurrence? I noticed they finished respectively 3rd and 4th (instinctively, Id' have them 3rd and 5th), so I guess it a few people had them in this order.

In Round 1 only three voters (out of 15) had Firsov ahead of Kharlamov, but in Round 2 seven voters (out of 13) put Firsov ahead.

 

[Sentinel]

I still see no argument for Fetisov over Makarov. Kill me now.

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

I still see no argument for Fetisov over Makarov. Kill me now.

Strange place for this comment, considering Fetisov ended up over Makarov on the final overall list.

For the substantive argument, see the thread for Round 2, Vote 1.

 

[Batis]

What's up with the blank in Round 2 Vote 9? I am completely sure that I voted in every round. I went back and checked my sent items and I did send a vote in that round. http://hfboards.mandatory.com/private.php?do=showpm&pmid=10753279

1. Ulf Sterner
2. Konstantin Loktev
3. Aleksandr Almetov
4. Peter Lindmark
5. Jiří Králík
6. Jiří Bubla
7. HÃ¥kan Loob
8. Jiří Lála
9. František Tikal
10. Igor Liba

 

[Theokritos]

What's up with the blank in Round 2 Vote 9? I am completely sure that I voted in every round. I went back and checked my sent items and I did send a vote in that round. http://hfboards.mandatory.com/private.php?do=showpm&pmid=10753279

You're right, I somehow overlooked it in the inbox yesterday. My bad, I'm sorry!

 

[Batis]

You're right, I somehow overlooked it in the inbox yesterday. My bad, I'm sorry!

No worries. I just got somewhat confused when I saw the blank column. Another thing I noticed is that I completely butchered Bobrovs first name on my preliminary list