HOH Top 60 Centers List & Voting Record - the edler

TheDevilMadeMe · Mar 21, 2014

Round 1 List

Players from our final top 60 not ranked in this top 60
Keon at 61
Ullman at 62
Sundin at 64
Larionov at 65
Hawerchuk at 68
Sittler at 73
Lemaire at 72
Nedomansky at 74
Delvecchio at 76
Barry at 78
Colville (not ranked)

Players unique to this list
Ernie Russell (on 1 other)
Herb Jordan
Harry Trihey (on 1 other)

Players ranked highest overall on this list
Morenz at 3 - next highest at 4
Taylor at 4 - next highest at 9
Nighbor at 6 (tied with 1 other)
Lalonde at 7 - next highest at 8
Malone at 11 (tied with 1 other)
T Smith at 14 - next highest at 64
Bowie at 17 - next lowest at 24
McGee at 18 - next highest at 37
H Smith at 19 - next highest at 25
Morris at 23 - next highest at 42
Fredrickson at 30 - next highest at 38
Irvin at 31 - next highest at 40
Russell at 34 - next highest at 75
Keats at 37 - next highest at 44
Adams at 57 - next highest at 66
Walsh at 63 - next highest at 73

Players ranked 2nd highest on this list
Apps at 12
Dionne at 13
Stewart at 16
Malkin at 27
Savard at 38
Foyston at 42
Dunderdale at 47 (tied with 1 other)

Players ranked lowest overall on this list
Beliveau at 5 - next lowest at 3
Mikita at 10 - next lowest at 7
Yzerman at 20 - next lowest at 15
Sakic at 21 - next lowest at 14
Messier at 26 - next lowest at 11
Schmidt at 44 - next lowest at 19
Bentley at 45 - next lowest at 43
Lach at 52 - next lowest at 39
Richard at 55 - next lowest at 26
Boucher at 56 - next lowest at 25
Abel at 58 - next lowest at 55
Datsyuk at 60 - next lowest at 57
Keon at 61 - next lowest at 45
Ullman at 62 - next lowest at 49
Sittler at 73 - next lowest at 63
Delvecchio at 76 - next lowest at 45
Barry at 78 - next lowest at 68

Players ranked 2nd lowest on this list
Esposito at 15 (tied with 1 other)
Cowley at 49
Sundin at 64
Larionov at 65
Hawerchuk at 68

Round 2 Voting Record

Highest vote
Round 2: Taylor 2nd
Round 13: Fredrickson 1st
Round 14: Fredrickson 1st, Morris 6th
Round 15: Dunderdale 3rd

Lowest vote
Round 2: Messier NR
Round 8: Abel NR

MadArcand · Mar 21, 2014

Wow, I thought I'd have stranglehold on McGee ranking, but I actually got lapped!

But then, the voting seems to be VERY different from the initial list, and the initial list is bound to look controversial itself.

sr edler · Mar 21, 2014

Eh, what can I say. It's not a fantastic list. I read books on the early eras at the same time I did the list, and got caught up in some players. Tommy Smith shouldn't be top 20. But I do regret I didn't put in Lorne Campbell somewhere.

And Dan Bain.

monster_bertuzzi · Mar 21, 2014

Messier 26th?!? Thats just embarrassing on you.

bigbuffalo313 · Mar 21, 2014

This makes me feel a bit better about my terrible list

thom · Mar 21, 2014

When Messier and Keon are so low how can anyone take you guys seriously-just terrible

Bear of Bad News · Mar 21, 2014

thom said:
When Messier and Keon are so low how can anyone take you guys seriously-just terrible

Let's see your list.

People who live in glass houses shouldn't undress.

Killion · Mar 21, 2014

the edler said:
Eh, what can I say....But I do regret I didn't put in Lorne Campbell somewhere.

And fellow countryman, HHOF Member Tommy Dunderdale edler. Where's he on your list?..... Not seeing him anywhere. :nono:

thom · Mar 21, 2014

1st of all many people in the know have Dave Keon as the greatest leaf ever-People like Scotty Bowman or Howie Meeker.As for Messier If you dont have him in your top 7-then you dont know the game or history.Again Im not judging just telling the truth

MXD · Mar 21, 2014

I'd like to remind everyone that the edler ranked Keon 4th in Vote 8th. In other words, 31st. Which is exactly where he finished in the final rankings.

His placement in round 1 probably had no impact whatsoever on Keon's final rank. If anything, the edler shown that he had an open mind and came back on his earlier ranking.

Now, who would have believed I'd be a peacekeeper in this!

seventieslord · Mar 21, 2014

MXD said:
I'd like to remind everyone that the edler ranked Keon 4th in Vote 8th. In other words, 31st. Which is exactly where he finished in the final rankings.

His placement in round 1 probably had no impact whatsoever on Keon's final rank. If anything, the edler shown that he had an open mind and came back on his earlier ranking.

Now, who would have believed I'd be a peacekeeper in this!

Exactly.

Dennis Bonvie · Mar 21, 2014

the edler said:
Eh, what can I say. It's not a fantastic list. I read books on the early eras at the same time I did the list, and got caught up in some players. Tommy Smith shouldn't be top 20. But I do regret I didn't put in Lorne Campbell somewhere.

And Dan Bain.

You are the Elder, not the Edler. Love those old-timers.

Dennis Bonvie · Mar 21, 2014

thom said:
1st of all many people in the know have Dave Keon as the greatest leaf ever-People like Scotty Bowman or Howie Meeker.As for Messier If you dont have him in your top 7-then you dont know the game or history.Again Im not judging just telling the truth

Saying an opinion is a truth is really not the truth.

Messier was not in my top 7 and my opinion is that I know the game.

TheDevilMadeMe · Mar 21, 2014

Of 23 accepted lists, 10 had Messier in their top 7, 11 had him between 8 and 11, and then there was this list

Edler was quite consistent in ranking NHL-era two-way centers much lower than the rest of the group in round 1

Bear of Bad News · Mar 21, 2014

thom said:
1st of all many people in the know have Dave Keon as the greatest leaf ever-People like Scotty Bowman or Howie Meeker.As for Messier If you dont have him in your top 7-then you dont know the game or history.Again Im not judging just telling the truth

Let's see your list.

DisgruntledGoat* · Mar 21, 2014

Chalupa Batman said:
Let's see your list.

You don't have to have made a list to know a bad one when you see it.

Hardyvan123 · Mar 21, 2014

Dennis Bonvie said:
You are the Elder, not the Edler. Love those old-timers.

Ya the old timers got a real bump on the original list here but so too did some modern guys.

Very interesting list to say the least.

sr edler · Apr 6, 2014

Killion said:
And fellow countryman, HHOF Member Tommy Dunderdale edler. Where's he on your list?..... Not seeing him anywhere.

Dunderdale is there on the list, 47th. You think I would forget him?

A guy I missed though was Harry Trihey.

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