HOH Top-40 Goalies Voter Record - MXD

[seventieslord]

Round 1 List:
HOH Top-40 Goalies Voter Record - MXD - HFBoards

Players on the top-40 not ranked:

Percy LeSueur

Players on the top-40 ranked below #50:

None

Players exclusive to this list and no more than two others:

Mike Karakas (59) – Karakas was on two other lists

Players ranked highest on this list:

Mike Liut (34)
Olaf Kolzig (46)
Tomas Vokoun (48)

Players ranked lowest on this list:

Mike Richter (56)
Mike Karakas (59)
Al Rollins (60)

Richter and Rollins were left off two lists, Karakas 24.

Round 2 voting record:

Participation Record:

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[MXD]

I will probably make a longer post tonight, and whenever I have more time than I do at the moment, but I regret Kolzig in the Top-50 and Rollins 60th (should have been a tad higher). If anything, I'd be happier if I would've had switched them around.

Lesueur was a pure omission.

 

[MXD]

Wow... I take it that I possibly have the most boring list of all

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

I am curious to know what made you flipflop on Roy and Plante

I think you had Giacomin too high in Round 1 but mostly corrected that in Round 2.

You have Tretiak lower than most, but you were pretty articulate about that during voting.

 

[MXD]

I am curious to know what made you flipflop on Roy and Plante

I think you had Giacomin too high in Round 1 but mostly corrected that in Round 2.

You have Tretiak lower than most, but you were pretty articulate about that during voting.

Observations as a whole. To me, Roy and Plante are basically virtual ties. The kicker here might just have been that Plante largely made his legacy on a better team than what Roy did. To me, they're virtual ties.

I actually had Giacomin too high until the round where he actually got in. I pictured him as a guy who wasn't that great in the playoffs, but in the end, had no effect on the outcome (a bit like the Luongo case, actually). The more I dug, the more I realized that most teams would have lost with Giacomin in the crease (and quite dissimilar to the Luongo situation). I blame my ignorance for this. Today, I'd rank Giacomin around 35th -- lower than where I had him in the end.

 

[seventieslord]

Wow... I take it that I possibly have the most boring list of all

I assure you, mine is more boring.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Thankfully, the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine captured the lists for this project, which were deleted during HF's adventure in software upgrades. Restoring them here in case the Wayback Machine link ever goes dead.

1	Jacques Plante
2	Patrick Roy
3	Dominik Hasek
4	Martin Brodeur
5	Glenn Hall
6	Terry Sawchuk
7	Ken Dryden
8	Bill Durnan
9	Frank Brimsek
10	Clint Benedict
11	Turk Broda
12	Tony Esposito
13	Charlie Gardiner
14	Bernie Parent
15	Georges Vezina
16	Roy Worters
17	Ed Belfour
18	Jiri Holecek
19	Johnny Bower
20	Vladislav Tretiak
21	Harry Lumley
22	Billy Smith
23	Tiny Thompson
24	Ed Giacomin
25	Grant Fuhr
26	George Hainsworth
27	Hugh Lehman
28	Curtis Joseph
29	Gump Worsley
30	Tom Barrasso
31	Rogie Vachon
32	Chuck Rayner
33	Hap Holmes
34	Mike Liut
35	Dave Kerr
36	Alec Connell
37	Tim Thomas
38	John Vanbiesbrouck
39	Normie Smith
40	Roberto Luongo
41	Vladimir Dzurilla
42	John Ross Roach
43	Miikka Kiprusoff
44	Lorne Chabot
45	Roger Crozier
46	Olaf Kolzig
47	Henrik Lundqvist
48	Tomas Vokoun
49	Paddy Moran
50	Andy Moog
51	Riley Hern
52	Chico Resch
53	Jiri Kralik
54	Pete Peeters
55	Gerry Cheevers
56	Mike Richter
57	Jean-Sebastien Giguere
58	Kelly Hrudey
59	Mike Karakas
60	Al Rollins

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[MXD]

I ... learned some things over time
But I was already relatively low on Sawchuk, Tretiak, Tiny Thompson and Mike Richter. This didn't change.
I warmed to Gardiner, Rayner and Beezer during the project. My Dave Kerr ranking looks a wee bit high, but he tends to be a bit underappreciated, so I don't regret it one bit. My ranking of Luongo is totally unexcusable (and that was in 2013), especially when you factor Vokoun. I'm still surprised that someone ranked Normie Smith over 39, because, frankly, I don't think I could justify Normie Smith above Bobrovsky as of today, and Bobrovsky isn't cracking my Top-40 (though he's probably passed the likes of Kelly Hrudey and Mike Karakas).