Value wise, it absolutely was the 2nd most valuable asset in the trade.
Yeah, but Boedker is better than anything in the trade after Hoffman
Assets, ranked in terms of value:
1) Hoffman
2) Boedker
3) Bergman
4) Sens 5th rounder
5) Sharks 6th rounder
6) Donaghey
Yeah, I'm not absolving Dorion from making a bad move here. I'm just saying that every time a move is made where we save money at the expense of hockey value, Melnyk deserves some blame as well.
Overlooked part of the deal is the Sens downgrading from a 5th to a 6th round pick in 2020.
Imagine having the balls to have Hoffman on the table for Boedker and Bergman, and insist on upgrading a near-worthless pick two years from now to complete the deal.
An ask like that shows that Wilson clearly has no respect for Dorion as a GM.
Overlooked part of the deal is the Sens downgrading from a 5th to a 6th round pick in 2020.
Imagine having the balls to have Hoffman on the table for Boedker and Bergman, and insist on upgrading a near-worthless pick two years from now to complete the deal.
An ask like that shows that Wilson clearly has no respect for Dorion as a GM.
sanjose get's cap space and they also get a 2nd, 4th, and 5th. wow
This board is a trainwreck.
We literally just traded Cole, who universally would be agreed upon as more valuable, for a 3rd 2 years from now. I see no way we get a 2nd for Boedker.
Not that it matters, but it's 3m per in actual salary.
Sorry Ottawa, in typical Bettman fashion Quebec City is getting the franchise.
So let me get this straight, the Sharks look like geniuses for flipping Hoffman to the Panthers for a 2019 2nd pick and a 4th and 5th in this years draft, who by the way may all turn out to be nobodies in the NHL, BUT the Sens get blasted for trading Hoffman for Boedker, when we all knew their backs were against the wall, while considering that Boedker can be an effective two way player in the NHL at the very least. Am I missing something?
Yes. Context.
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Zadina Duchene Stone Boedker Pageau Dzingel Smith White Ryan Paajarvi Chlapik Pyatt
That's VERY optimistic for Duchene and Ryan
He did so once(19 goals) and that was 5 seasons ago.
Fun game we're playing.
Preparing to see Stone go to arbitration with a one year deal and Duchene walking because we gave their money to Boedker.
Carolina: Aho, Teravainen, Williams
NYR: Zuccarello, Zibanejad, Hayes
NJ: Hall, Hischier, Butcher
Detroit: Larkin, Zetterberg, Mantha
Florida: Barkov, Trochek, Huberdeau
Columbus: Panarin, Jones, Dubois
Montreal: Gallagher, Pacioretty, Drouin
Buffalo: Eichel, O'Reilly, Reinhart
I'll remove NYI since I forgot about Barzal, but which of those would you take over Karlsson, Duchene and Stone?
Like who? The only real notable D prospects in the system would be Jaros and Lajoie. I'd put him below Lajoie, probably around Englund who's looking like nothing more than a depth player. I would rather have a 4th or 5th round pick over the player, but I understand they desperately need depth in Belleville, just wish Belleville depth wasn't one of the primary assets involved in a trade for our top LW.Take away the name. 2ND round pick. former world Junior player. 3 years ahl seasoning. I like that profile for a young D. But I don't know anything about the player. I do know just from a profIle view that his profile looks better than many young D in our system that guys here think highly of.
The trade return was always gonna be **** after the ****storm, so begs the question why your boss didn't trade him in February when he could have gotten a much better haul?
Until you confirm otherwise, I believe you to be Randy Lee btw.
This team feels like it's on a constant rotation of substitute teachers in the classroom. No accountability, no control, no respect between teacher, pupil or peers. And nothing being accomplished.
So perhaps keeping, and letting GB coach for three years is a good thing, as long as he asks for accountability, and the players expect it from each other?
What gives the impression Boucher holds anyone accountable? He routinely gives struggling veterans like Oduya or Ceci huge roles when they make mistake after mistake while younger players like White or Chabot can be banished to the minors or press box for out playing the likes of Burrows or Smith or Ceci.So perhaps keeping, and letting GB coach for three years is a good thing, as long as he asks for accountability, and the players expect it from each other?
.... and , perhaps it isn'tSo perhaps keeping, and letting GB coach for three years is a good thing, as long as he asks for accountability, and the players expect it from each other?
Return for Duchene:
Top 5 pick in 2018 or 2019
Girard
Kamenev
Bowers
2nd
3rd
Return for Hoffman+Spezza+Brassard
21st overall
Gustavsson
2nd
Chiasson
Guptil
Paul
Boedker
Bergman
6th
Lol.