HFNHL offseason free agents

[HFNHLOilers]

This is very complicado...WOW

Lol not really all makes sense to me and I'm the young one here :p

 

[Fooladelfia]

Lol not really all makes sense to me and I'm the young one here :p

Im not very wise Zach..you have a young brain.

 

[Ohio Jones]

As far as matching term goes, i understand not being able to extend an offer for a longer term than teir current NHL deal, but what if a guy is signed in the NHL to a long-term deal - can you auto re-sign him to a shorter term at the same cap hit?

 

[Wildman]

As far as matching term goes, i understand not being able to extend an offer for a longer term than teir current NHL deal, but what if a guy is signed in the NHL to a long-term deal - can you auto re-sign him to a shorter term at the same cap hit?

LOt of these long term deals are front loaded with $1M at the end. So we normally take the 4 year cap rather than the whole contract.

 

[Dr.Sens(e)]

LOt of these long term deals are front loaded with $1M at the end. So we normally take the 4 year cap rather than the whole contract.

It depends of course. Sometimes the deal is very front loaded - like paying a player $10M in the first year or two, in order to get him for less long term (the present value of money, makes a front loaded deal worth more than a backended deal for the same gross amount).

The real caveat, is as you say, if there are a few $1M years added to the end. Those you generally have to discount, in particular if the guy is going to be in his 40's.

An example would be Daniel Briere. His last year in his current deal is only $3M, and his first year was over $8M I believe, but I think the overall cap number is fair and that $3M year is actually legit. So that would be included in the cap.

As to whether you can do a shorter term, we haven't really encountered that scenario given everyone typically tries to lock up to the max, but I suppose it would be the agents discretion if the team didn't want to commit long-term to match the term of the NHL deal. Which is to say, no, there wouldn't be an auto-sign if the HFNHL team wouldn't commit to the player the way the NHL team did. The term is always part of the deal.

 

[Canuck09]

As to whether you can do a shorter term, we haven't really encountered that scenario given everyone typically tries to lock up to the max, but I suppose it would be the agents discretion if the team didn't want to commit long-term to match the term of the NHL deal. Which is to say, no, there wouldn't be an auto-sign if the HFNHL team wouldn't commit to the player the way the NHL team did. The term is always part of the deal.

I assumed the question was geared towards these 6-10 year deals where we can only sign someone to 4 years. Do we get to auto sign a player over 4 years at the same cap hit as that 6-10 year deal...taking into account random $1M type years on the end.

I like the idea that not all players added via recent trades will auto sign. If anything, I'd like to see far less players accept the auto sign. Our FA pretty much sucks because of things like this. I know it's tough to manage but it's unrealistic that every player will sign with their existing team 100% of the time as they do now. Some players simply don't want to stay where they are for a variety of reasons...money, want to play for a winner, want to play with a friend, want to play at home etc.

 

[Hossa]

Canucks have re-signed the following players:

David Krejci
Kris Letang
Brandon Yip
Carey Price
Jason Demers
David Backes
Ryan Callahan
James Wisniewski

The two other big free agents are Brodeur and Quincey. As most would expect, Brodeur will not be re-signed. Quincey will either be re-signed or simply qualified eventually. That decision is still forthcoming.

 

[Dr.Sens(e)]

I assumed the question was geared towards these 6-10 year deals where we can only sign someone to 4 years. Do we get to auto sign a player over 4 years at the same cap hit as that 6-10 year deal...taking into account random $1M type years on the end.

I like the idea that not all players added via recent trades will auto sign. If anything, I'd like to see far less players accept the auto sign. Our FA pretty much sucks because of things like this. I know it's tough to manage but it's unrealistic that every player will sign with their existing team 100% of the time as they do now. Some players simply don't want to stay where they are for a variety of reasons...money, want to play for a winner, want to play with a friend, want to play at home etc.

The other idea that has been mentioned is auto-sign only applies when the player was there a full season. So if you trade for a guy mid-season and he is a pending UFA (rental, basically), the player won't go the auto-sign route given there is a limited amount of loyalty (if any). I certainly think this warrants consideration and it would help boost free agency.

 

[Ohio Jones]

Two more RFAs off the market as Ladislav Smid and Chris Thorburn both signed multi-year extensions to continue playing for Mike Babcock and the Columbus Blue Jackets beyond this season. The big fish (Vokoun, Langenbrunner) still remain unsigned

 

[MatthewFlames]

The Flames have extended Niklas Backstrom for two more years at a substantial raise - and will probably re-sign Hejduk and Budaj in the coming week.

 

[Fooladelfia]

The Flames have extended Niklas Backstrom for two more years at a substantial raise - and will probably re-sign Hejduk and Budaj in the coming week.

What about the handsome Dipietro ???

 

[MatthewFlames]

What about the handsome Dipietro ???

Best #4 goalie in the entire HFNHL!

 

[Wildman]

Anyone who is curious to see the signings can check the file under Yahoo under the folder 2011 free agent signings

 

[Ohio Jones]

The Jackets have extended Tomas Vokoun, making him one of the 5 highest-paid goalies in the HFNHL. The team confirmed that it's a long-term deal, GM Emerson only stating that "Vokoun will spend the rest of his career here helping to make this team a contender."

 

[Brent Burns Beard]

PIT extends the following players:

Milan Lucic - 4,000,000 (3)
Mikael Samuelsson - 2,500,000 (2)
Peter Mueller - 1,500,000 (1)
Jerred Smithson - 800,000 (2)

 

[Dryden]

So, Are we using 29 as UFA still?

 

[HFNHL Commish]

Certainly for the remainder of this season.

 

[Fooladelfia]

Curtis Glencross is 28 now and would be 29 in december 28....he's what UFA or RFA??? He will begin the season at 28...Do we have a cut off date??
Thanks

 

[Wildman]

Curtis Glencross is 28 now and would be 29 in december 28....he's what UFA or RFA??? He will begin the season at 28...Do we have a cut off date??
Thanks

If Vital page is showing 28 or above than they will be UFA at the end of season otherwise they will be RFA. Curtis will be RFA come July 1st, 2011 unless you send in a handsome offer and sign him.

 

[Canuck09]

Curtis Glencross is 28 now and would be 29 in december 28....he's what UFA or RFA??? He will begin the season at 28...Do we have a cut off date??
Thanks

Don't believe me? He was 27 as of last roster cutoff so for the purposes of our contracts he will be 28 when it expires which makes him a RFA still.

 

[Fooladelfia]

If Vital page is showing 28 or above than they will be UFA at the end of season otherwise they will be RFA. Curtis will be RFA come July 1st, 2011 unless you send in a handsome offer and sign him.

Yes like the one they made me sign for Svatos????????????????????

 

[Ville Isopaa]

HFNHL FA'S

COL

N.Backstrom RFA Re-signed
P.Regin RFA Re-signed
B.Morrow UFA Re-signed
L.Vishnovsky UFA Re-signed
R.Johnson UFA
M.Recchi UFA
D.Langkow UFA
J.Oduya UFA

The remaining four are most likely going to test the free agent market.

 

[MatthewFlames]

The Flames have extended Niklas Backstrom for two more years at a substantial raise - and will probably re-sign Hejduk and Budaj in the coming week.

Budaj has signed, as has Grant Clitsome and Andrej Sekera.

After much debate within the Flames camp, they signed Milan Hejduk to a long term deal and expect him to anchor the top line with Datsyuk and Skinner.

Knuble and Jokinen will head to the FA market.

 

[PasiK]

Sean O'Donnell and Ray Whitney accepted Sharks contract extensions. Alexandre Giroux, mike brodeur and Steph Yelle will go to free agency.

Ben Scrivens age should be 25, not 31.
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=94416

 

[Tampa GM]

Tampa have offered new contracts to Bobby Ryan, Eric Belanger, Niclas Wallin, Justin Pogge and Linus Klasen late last night. GM Martin Sedin hopes to re-sign everyone before they hit free agency.