~ HFNHL FREE AGENCY 2020 ~ Results Thread

[Brock]

Here are the results of RFA Bids.

Teams, you have until Thursday, July 23 at 11:59PM EST to respond (in this thread, through whats app, through email).

As a reminder, here is the compensation chart.

OFFER – COMPENSATION

$1,395,053 or below: None

$1,395,054-$2,113,716: 3rd

$2,113,717-$4,227,437: 2nd

$4,227,438-$6,341,152: 1st, 3rd

$6,341,153-$8,454,871: 1st, 2nd, 3rd

$8,454,872-$10,568,589:
2 1sts , 2nd, 3rd

Over
$10,568,590+: 4 1sts

Signings
RED = NOT MATCHED
GREEN = MATCHED

Dominik Kahun

COL

EDM

$4,227,437

2

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[Brock]

UDFA Signings

Name	Team	Contract	Term
Outright Signings
Kodie Curran	COL	$2,000,000	4
Adam Brubacher	WSH	$925,000	1
Yanni Kaldis	WSH	$925,000	1
Max Martin	WSH	$925,000	3
Alex Olivier-Voyer	WSH	$925,000	3
Dawson Barteaux	FLA	$925,000	3
Hunter Drew	CBJ	$925,000	3
Cole Smith	VGS	$792,500	1
Carl-Johan Lerby	LA	$925,000	2
Joona Luoto	LA	$925,000	2
Logan Thompson	LA	$925,000	2
Jesper Olofsson	LA	$930,000	2
Will Graber	TB	$925,000	1
Cedric Pare	TB	$925,000	3
Kristian Rubins	CBJ	$925,000	2
Devin Brosseau	CGY	$925,000	1
Peyton Jones	CGY	$925,000	1
Zach Giuttari	CGY	$925,000	1
Radim Zohorna	COL	$925,000	1
Patrick Curry	NYR	$925,000	1
UDFA Lotteries
Jonathan Aspirot	WSH	$925,000	3
Jason Cotton	MTL	$925,000	1
Hunter Shepard	TB	$925,000	1
Cale Morris	FLA	$925,000	1
Olle Alsing	VAN	$925,000	1
Jared Rosburg	COL	$925,000	1
Ryan Shea	VAN	$925,000	2
Dawson Dipietro	CGY	$925,000	1
Austin Rueschhoff	CGY	$925,000	2
Damian Riat	WSH	$925,000	1
Nate Sucese	CBJ	$925,000	1
Victor Brattstrom	MTL	$925,000	2
Hugh McGing	CBJ	$925,000	2
John Lethemon	OTT	$925,000	1
Colton Poolman	STL	$925,000	1
Theodor Lennstrom	STL	$925,000	1
Matej Chalupa	COL	$925,000	2
Arsen Khisamutdinov	EDM	$925,000	2
Alec Rauhauser	ARZ	$925,000	1
Fredrik Handemark	COL	$925,000	1
John Leonard	FLA	$925,000	2
Justin Richards	MIN	$925,000	2
Vasili Demchenko	VAN	$925,000	1
Mathias Brome	LA	$925,000	1
Cameron Lee	FLA	$925,000	2
Bryce Kindopp	PIT	$925,000	3
Jake Christiansen	PIT	$925,000	3
Linus Sandin	PIT	$925,000	1
Marc Michaelis	MIN	$925,000	1
Mitchell Chaffee	FLA	$925,000	2
Wyatt Kalynuk	WSH	$925,000	2
Alexander Barabanov	LA	$925,000	1
Jack Ahcan	EDM	$925,000	2
Artem Zub	VGS	$925,000	1
Drew O'Connor	VAN	$925,000	2
Johannes Kinnvall	EDM	$925,000	2
Mikko Lehtonen	NYI	$925,000	1
Connor Mackey	VAN	$925,000	1

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[Brock]

UFA Signings

Forwards
Craig Smith	TOR	$4,750,000	1
Riley Nash	TOR	$2,750,000	2
Tobias Rieder	MIN	$1,999,999	4
Matt Martin	TOR	$1,000,000	1
Eric Staal	DAL	$10,000,000	2
Jeff Carter	DAL	$6,500,000	2
Sam Carrick	SJ	$1,200,000	4
Michael Chaput	SJ	$1,200,000	4
Devin Shore	MIN	$1,999,999	4
Jay Beagle	ANA	$2,100,000	2
Yanni Gourde	EDM	$5,750,000	2
Alan Quine	MTL	$1,250,000	2
Devante Smith Pelly	MTL	$1,550,000	2
Nate Thompson	MTL	$2,000,000	2
Matt Moulson	MTL	$1,500,000	1
Adam Cracknell	MTL	$1,000,000	1
Brad Richardson	EDM	$2,750,000	1
Loui Eriksson	STL	$1,900,000	2
Victor Rask	STL	$1,000,000	3
Jason Spezza	VGS	$3,000,000	1
Patrick Maroon	VGS	$2,500,000	2
Tyler Pitlick	MTL	$1,450,000	2
Mason Marchment	VGS	$750,000	1
Travis Boyd	VGS	$750,000	1
Logan O'Connor	VGS	$750,000	1
Sven Baertschi	PIT	$1,900,000	3
Nick Bjugstad	CBJ	$3,250,000	3
Andrew Shaw	TB	$1,999,999	2
Frans Nielsen	VAN	$800,000	4
Richard Panik	COL	$700,000	4
Austin Czarnik	COL	$700,000	4
Michael Frolik	COL	$700,000	4
Darren Helm	EDM	$3,250,000	2
Colin Wilson	EDM	$2,500,000	1
Carl Soderberg	DAL	$6,500,000	2
Mikael Granlund	BOS	$6,500,000	4
Mikko Koivu	EDM	$4,900,000	1
Par Lindholm	ANA	$900,000	3

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Defense
Gavin Bayreuther	FLA	$750,000	1
Radim Simek	FLA	$2,750,000	4
Connor Carrick	MIN	$1,999,999	4
Jordie Benn	BOS	$3,000,000	4
Radko Gudas	TOR	$4,000,000	1
Brent Seabrook	BOS	$7,000,000	2
Derek Forbort	TOR	$1,750,000	2
Kevan Miller	DET	$3,500,000	1
Greg Pateryn	TOR	$1,750,000	2
Andy Greene	ANA	$4,500,000	2
Mark Barberio	NSH	$1,200,000	4
Trevor Van Riemsdyk	PIT	$2,000,000	3
Joe Hicketts	VGS	$750,000	1
Dylan McIlrath	COL	$700,000	1
Mike Green	CBJ	$2,500,000	1
Dmitri Kulikov	NSH	$3,500,000	4
Justin Schultz	ARZ	$2,800,000	2
Ben Hutton	EDM	$2,750,000	1
Jared Tinordi	STL	$1,750,000	4
Jon Merrill	VGS	$2,000,000	2
Luca Sbisa	OTT	$2,000,000	2

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Goaltenders
Carter Hutton	NYR	$2,500,000	2
Kasimir Kaskisuo	TOR	$700,000	1
Louis Domingue	PIT	$1,500,000	3
Martin Jones	CBJ	$3,000,000	4
Charles Williams	MTL	$1,250,000	2
Craig Anderson	DAL	$2,200,000	1
Ryan Miller	VGS	$2,000,000	1
Oscar Dansk	STL	$950,000	3
Mitch Gillam	EDM	$900,000	1
Curtis McElhinney	EDM	$3,000,000	1

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UFA 2nd Round of Bidding

Teams, you have until Friday, July 24 at 11:59PM EST to increase your offers.

Send by email. Only the invited teams (in brackets) are allowed to submit new offers. If you do not submit a new offer, your previous one will be used. If you wish, you can still prioritize signings using the format from the original offer sheet (doesn't have the be the same as your original priority listing). The current leading offer is the one shown. As a reminder, you can not back out of signings as offers are final. If you wish to decrease the number of players you have offered contracts to, use your priority listing as a reflection of that.

Forwards
Nico Sturm - 1 year x $750,000 (COL, FLA)
Wayne Simmonds - 4 years x $2,500,000 (DET, NSH)
Melker Karlsson - 3 years x $1,750,000 (MTL, PIT)
James Neal - 4 years x $4,000,000 (CBJ, NSH, ARZ)
Joe Thornton - 1 year x $3,000,000 (ARZ, VGS)
Alex Steen - 3 years x $3,000,000 (PIT, CBJ, NYR)
Justin Williams - 3 years x $3,000,000 (PIT, VAN, ARZ)
Tim Schaller - 1 year x $1,000,000 (ANA, CAR)
Vladimir Sobotka - 1 year x $1,000,000 (ANA, CAR)

Defense
Roland McKeown - 1 year x $750,000 (FLA, VGS)
Justin Faulk - 3 years x $5,200,000 (ANA, CBJ)
Oscar Fantenberg - 2 years x $2,000,000 (CBJ, MTL)
Ron Hainsey - 4 years x $1,999,999 (MIN, ARZ)
Dan Hamhuis - 1 year x $3,000,000 (DET, CBJ)
Martin Marincin - 3 years x $750,000 (STL, COL)

Goaltenders
Aaron Dell - 3 years x $2,500,000 (PIT, VGS)
Devan Dubnyk - 4 years x $1,999,999 (VGS, TOR)
Brian Elliott - 1 year x $1,600,000 (TOR, PIT, BUF)
Dustin Tokarski - 3 years x $900,000 (TB, NYR)

*Of Note, please do not send in offers yet for players who have not yet been signed or offered upon by teams. There will be another round of free agency following the completion of this round (after the due date for 2nd round offers above). There will be a separate post announcing this.

 

[Brock]

Updated Roster Count:

Team	Contract #
Calgary	49
Los Angeles	47
Nashville	44
Vegas	46
Vancouver	49
Anaheim	40
Columbus	40
Arizona	44
Pittsburgh	46
Colorado	45
Florida	45
Winnipeg	41
Washington	44
St. Louis	42
Edmonton	43
Buffalo	39
Tampa Bay	40
Montreal	41
Detroit	38
NY Rangers	37
Ottawa	42
Toronto	37
Dallas	35
Philadelphia	34
Chicago	34
Minnesota	35
San Jose	31
New Jersey	32
Carolina	29
Boston	28
NY Islanders	27

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[Ville Isopaa]

Julius Honka played in Finland last season and hasn't signed a contract to return to the NHL/AHL, so he shouldn't be eligible to be signed

 

[Canuck09]

I don't think Kesler should be eligible to sign. He didn't play in the NHL last season and his ratings are from the season before I believe.

 

[Ohio Jones]

Props to Brock on sorting through this massive hockey Sudoku puzzle!

 

[Ville Isopaa]

Colorado will not match the offer sheet on Dominik Kahun and wish him all the best in Edmonton from 2021-22 season and on. For the 2020-21 season, Colorado hope that Kahun wins the internal scoring title with the Oilers, but that the team finishes dead last in the league, making that EDM2 21 pick the 33rd overall pick.

 

[Ville Isopaa]

I don't think Kesler should be eligible to sign. He didn't play in the NHL last season and his ratings are from the season before I believe.

David Schlemko's ratings are also identical from the season before and he didn't play in 2019-20.

 

[Dempsey]

I’m not so sure Ivan Nalimov is eligible to be signed. He had only signed an AHL PTO in March, not a full contract.

 

[Brock]

Julius Honka played in Finland last season and hasn't signed a contract to return to the NHL/AHL, so he shouldn't be eligible to be signed

Good catch.

 

[Brock]

I don't think Kesler should be eligible to sign. He didn't play in the NHL last season and his ratings are from the season before I believe.

Someone can correct me if I am wrong, but what has traditionally been done with FA's like this, is we allow the signings, however the players go to a team's prospect list and are only activated when they play a game (at some level) again.

 

[Brock]

I’m not so sure Ivan Nalimov is eligible to be signed. He had only signed an AHL PTO in March, not a full contract.

We had chatted about this one internally. We have allowed European players to sign previously who had signed AHL contracts. Nalimov did sign a contract with Rockford this March (not a rumour, it was officially announced by Rockford). Some AHL transactions don't even specify whether it is an ATO or a PTO, especially for players at the end of the year, so it can get murky.

Has there been a case of us rejecting a contract in this similar situation before?

 

[Dempsey]

We had chatted about this one internally. We have allowed European players to sign previously who had signed AHL contracts. Nalimov did sign a contract with Rockford this March (not a rumour, it was officially announced by Rockford). Some AHL transactions don't even specify whether it is an ATO or a PTO, especially for players at the end of the year, so it can get murky.

Has there been a case of us rejecting a contract in this similar situation before?

Nope, that I’m aware of. I did see that it was only a PTO tryout for the end of last season and that he has no North American contract for this coming season. I assumed that wasn’t good enough when I pointed it out, but if the league was already aware then all’s good.

Great work as always Brock. Looking forward to the lottery

 

[CopperAndBlueGM]

I don't think Kesler should be eligible to sign. He didn't play in the NHL last season and his ratings are from the season before I believe.

Does this really apply in Kesler's situation though? It's not like he couldn't/didn't have a contract and fell into the 'unofficially retired' situation.

I get the logic when guys do try and sign these 'unofficially retired' cases like Seidenberg and 1 other last year.

In Kesler's case though he was out on LTIR with hip surgery and no indication he's planning on hanging up his skates. An NHL season I will note that will still be in-progress when the HFNHL starts it's 2020/21 campaign

Had I known this was the interpretation I would have had a different guy as 'Plan B' for my top 6. Also given the unusual situation we're in the new NHL season will start well after the HFNHL year starts.

I ask to get a final decision from the Admin team soon please and if it is the case he can't be used until he skates again, I request his contract be voided. Depending on the decision I may need to seek another expensive forward with the risk he, and his $4.5M contract, get activated part way through the HFNHL year for a position on the team that would no longer be needed.

 

[Brock]

Alright, so here's what we have decided after some really serious deliberation (no joke, this was heavily debated for a few days):

1. Both the Julius Honka and Ivan Nalimov signings have been voided. Honka does not have a deal in North America and has played in Europe. Nalimov, did sign a PTO, however did not play a game. Starting now and moving forward, European players will require the signing of an actual contract (not a tryout contract) in order to be signed in the HFNHL. So a tryout deal (either at the NHL or AHL level) will not count.

2. As has been the case in previous years regarding players with long term injuries, who had not played a game in the NHL in a season, they will be moved to a team's prospect list until they play a pro level game again. When they do, they will require mandatory activation. For this year, these players will keep the ratings they currently are listed at in the SIM when (or if) they are activated.

3. In the future, any player not playing games the previous year (and subsequently not included in the ratings pack utilized by the league), will not receive any ratings and will be rated as 50's across the board, similar to European UDFA's. This was something that had been done in the past (by Jeff, manually comparing the ratings), but had fallen by the way side in recent seasons, allowing for these players to slip through the cracks, continuing to use the same ratings, year after year, because they had not officially retired. We will go back to finding these players and preventing them from having ratings.

4. If a team has signed a player as identified in #2 and #3 during this FA period (such as Kesler, Schlemko), they will be given the option to walk away from said signing(s) in hopes of filling said roster hole with another usable player.

 

[CopperAndBlueGM]

Thank you for the thoughtful deliberation on the matter.

Given the outcome Edmonton will exercise the option to walk away from the Kesler contract.

 

[Dempsey]

Theodor Lennstrom has been loaned back to the SHL for one more year.

Oilers' Theodor Lennstrom: Loaned to Swedish club

 

[Brock]

Theodor Lennstrom has been loaned back to the SHL for one more year.

Oilers' Theodor Lennstrom: Loaned to Swedish club

That signing will stay. As mentioned in the rules thread for this free agent period, European players who sign their NHL deals and are being loaned, will still be signed. Due to the state of the pandemic, heck, every single European player signed could be doing this. Bottom line, they sign an NHL deal, they are eligible.

 

[Ville Isopaa]

Avs take the option to walk away from the Schlemko contract. Thanks.

 

[Brock]

Nothing to see here. Final results posted Saturday.

 

[CopperAndBlueGM]

Apologies if I'm overlooking this posted somewhere already ... do we have a timeline on when the UDFA lottery will be run this year?

The context behind my asking is as to whether teams will know where exactly they stand with respect to the 50 contract limit, before the 2nd round of free agency opens, or if we need to risk manage how many lotteries we may, or may not, win beforehand.

Edmonton never seems to win anything of consequence in UDFA lotteries but who knows maybe our luck will change and I'll be near the 50 limit

Thanks in advance.

 

[Brock]

Apologies if I'm overlooking this posted somewhere already ... do we have a timeline on when the UDFA lottery will be run this year?

The context behind my asking is as to whether teams will know where exactly they stand with respect to the 50 contract limit, before the 2nd round of free agency opens, or if we need to risk manage how many lotteries we may, or may not, win beforehand.

Edmonton never seems to win anything of consequence in UDFA lotteries but who knows maybe our luck will change and I'll be near the 50 limit

Thanks in advance.

We're in negotiations with the Lottery master and his balls. It is hopeful that a deal can be reached.

The UDFA lottery will occur before the second round of FA does. So no need to worry there. Everyone will know where they stand.

 

[MatthewFlames]

We're in negotiations with the Lottery master and his balls. It is hopeful that a deal can be reached.

I'm currently still in quarantine until Wednesday and don't have my balls with me - so we'll have to wait until after that, sadly.

 

[Fooladelfia]

I'm currently still in quarantine until Wednesday and don't have my balls with me - so we'll have to wait until after that, sadly.

No cojones....