HFBoards Top 50 Prospects Ranking #41 (closed)

[amnesiac]

TOP 50 PROSPECTS


Criteria is 22 and under, 30 NHL GP or less, no goalies

1. Owen Power - D		18. Alexander Holtz - RW		35. Danila Yurov - RW
2. Matty Beniers - C		19. Brandt Clarke - D		36. Joakim Kemell - RW
3. Jake Sanderson - D		20. John Peterka - LW		37. Dylan Holloway - C
4. Luke Hughes - D		21. Dylan Guenther - RW		38. Shane Pinto - C
5. Juraj Slafkovsky - LW		22. Lukas Reichel - C/W		39. Jonathan Lekkerimaki- RW
6. Shane Wright - C		23. Cutter Gauthier - C/LW		40. Matt Coronato - LW
7. Simon Edvinsson - D		24. Matthew Savoie - C		41.
8. Mason McTavish - C		25. Marco Kasper - C		42.
9. Jack Quinn - W		26. Frank Nazar - C		43.
10. Logan Cooley - C		27. Kaiden Guhle - D		44.
11. Simon Nemec - D		28. Logan Stankoven - C		45.
12. Kent Johnson - C		29. Jakob Pelletier - LW		46.
13. David Jiricek - D		30. Maverick Bourque - C		47.
14. Wyatt Johnston - C		31. Pavel Mintyukov - D		48.
15. Marco Rossi - C		32. Olen Zellweger - D		49.
16. Cole Perfetti - C/RW		33. Aatu Raty - C		50.
17. William Eklund - LW		34. Thomas Bordeleau - C

To add:
Rutger McGroarty - C
Isaac Howard - LW
Brad Lambert - C/RW
Ivan Miroshinchenko - LW

Calen Addison - D
Nick Robertson - LW
Alex Turcotte - C
Hendrix Lapierre - C
Rodion Amirov - LW
Justin Barron - D
Jack Drury - C
Carson Lambos - D
Sasha Pastujov - RW
Jack Rathbone - D
Jordan Harris - D
Zachary Bolduc - C
Sakir Mukhamadullin - D
Zachary L'Heureux - LW
Frencesco Pinelli - C
Jordan Spence - D
Zac Jones - D
Sean Farrell - LW




Past lists:
HFBoards TOP 50 Prospects Ranking #50 FINAL (summer 2021)
HFBoards TOP 75 Prospects Ranking #75 (FINAL) (winter 2020-21)
HFBoards TOP 50 Prospects (summer 2019)
Top 50 Drafted Prospects 2018: #46 - #50 (summer 2018)
HFBoards TOP 50 Prospects #50 FINAL (summer 2017)

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[Mrb1p]

Jagger Firkus

 

[Lavar Ball]

Greig here for me

Korchinski, Lysell are my next options

 

[amnesiac]

Berggren, most proven at pro level
64P 70GP AHL age 21

Othmann
Greig
Knies
Niemela
Mateychuk
Korchinski

 

[EdJovanovski]

Kravtsov AINEC

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Greig
Othmann

Then a bunch of undersized D that don’t get the credit they deserve
Cormier
Heinola
Niemala

 

[amnesiac]

More votes

 

[Stamkos4life]

I've seen the Leafs prospect pool ranked as high as 11th overall in the league and yet they don't have a single player in the top 40.

Seems off.

 

[Xirik]

I've seen the Leafs prospect pool ranked as high as 11th overall in the league and yet they don't have a single player in the top 40.

Seems off.

was the ranking from a Canadian or Toronto based organisation?

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I've seen the Leafs prospect pool ranked as high as 11th overall in the league and yet they don't have a single player in the top 40.

Seems off.

Pre draft or after draft…. Link em

Personally I have robertson knies and niemla in the 45-75 range.

was the ranking from a Canadian or Toronto based organisation?

Oh I’m guessing bader thing… I think I remember him having them at 11 on something

 

[amnesiac]

was the ranking from a Canadian or Toronto based organisation?

yeah, Knies, Niemela, Robertson, even Amirov could go between 40-70, the difference is they have no blue chip guys. I wouldnt take any over the top 40 weve listed so far.

 

[Mrb1p]

Sigh... Other.
Jaggity Firkussy

 

[Golden_Jet]

Pre draft or after draft…. Link em

Personally I have robertson knies and niemla in the 45-75 range.


Oh I’m guessing bader thing… I think I remember him having them at 11 on something

Yep it was Bader

Predraft Leafs ranked 4th


Post Draft Leafs ranked 11th


Senators 29th post draft.

 

[Stamkos4life]

was the ranking from a Canadian or Toronto based organisation?

Pre draft or after draft…. Link em

Personally I have robertson knies and niemla in the 45-75 range.


Oh I’m guessing bader thing… I think I remember him having them at 11 on something

Ranking of the top prospect pools in the NHL by Hockey Prospecting - You won't guess who's 1

The NHL Entry draft was a few weeks ago now and every team had a chance through 7 rounds to

www.houseofhockey.net

#11 here, post draft. This is from the guy you mentioned, Bader. No idea who he is.

The NHL’s Best Farm Systems Ranked - 2023-24 Midseason Update - The Hockey Writers Editor's Choice Latest News, Analysis & More

Just like the NHL clubs, their prospect pools are all at different stages. This piece will take a look at every NHL farm system ranking.

thehockeywriters.com

#15 here, pre draft.

I personally think they are lower, around 20th, and am surprised these lists have them so high. Especially considering not a single leaf prospect has been chosen in the top 40 of these polls.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Ranking of the top prospect pools in the NHL by Hockey Prospecting - You won't guess who's 1

The NHL Entry draft was a few weeks ago now and every team had a chance through 7 rounds to

www.houseofhockey.net

#11 here, post draft. This is from the guy you mentioned, Bader. No idea who he is.

The NHL’s Best Farm Systems Ranked - 2023-24 Midseason Update - The Hockey Writers Editor's Choice Latest News, Analysis & More

Just like the NHL clubs, their prospect pools are all at different stages. This piece will take a look at every NHL farm system ranking.

thehockeywriters.com

#15 here, pre draft.

I personally think they are lower, around 20th, and am surprised these lists have them so high. Especially considering not a single leaf prospect has been chosen in the top 40 of these polls.

And that he has Ottawa at 29th, is Ottawa really 18 spots behind Toronto.
What are his criteria.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Ranking of the top prospect pools in the NHL by Hockey Prospecting - You won't guess who's 1

The NHL Entry draft was a few weeks ago now and every team had a chance through 7 rounds to

www.houseofhockey.net

#11 here, post draft. This is from the guy you mentioned, Bader. No idea who he is.

The NHL’s Best Farm Systems Ranked - 2023-24 Midseason Update - The Hockey Writers Editor's Choice Latest News, Analysis & More

Just like the NHL clubs, their prospect pools are all at different stages. This piece will take a look at every NHL farm system ranking.

thehockeywriters.com

#15 here, pre draft

I personally think they are lower, around 20th, and am surprised these lists have them so high. Especially considering not a single leaf prospect has been chosen in the top 40 of these polls.

someone can correct me if I’m wrong, but I think Baders list doesn’t put much weight into quality, and quantity is worth just as much. Also don’t know how far his list goes back so if it includes marner/matthews/rielly etc makes sense why they are that high.

I think torontos pool has a lot of good pieces, but not much in terms of high end, which makes sense based on where they are in standings generally.

 

[Haatley]

Yep it was Bader

Predraft Leafs ranked 4th


Post Draft Leafs ranked 11th


Senators 29th post draft.

It's their depth that's rated well. They don't have high end prospects. That's how I understand that chart.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Couldn’t find Baders criteria, did fine this:

Bader Explains Why Sharks Have Top-5 Prospects Pool

Is the San Jose Sharks’ farm system back? According to NHL Draft consultant and data scientist Byron Bader — yes: NHL TEAM PROSPECT POOL STRENGTH RANKINGS (JULY 2021 – POST DRAFT) pic.twitter.com/Yitmy8L4kT — Byron Bader (@ByronMBader) July 30, 2021 Per the Hockey Prospecting founder’s model...

sanjosehockeynow.com

In the article he says this:
Bader says he pulls his top-five from in-market sources, like fans and bloggers, and in some cases, team executives.
This is Bader’s definition of a star: “My model is more based on production.

Lol @ fans and bloggers.

 

[Mrb1p]

Yep it was Bader

Predraft Leafs ranked 4th


Post Draft Leafs ranked 11th


Senators 29th post draft.

Dreadful lmao Baders a clown

 

[Stamkos4life]

Yep it was Bader

Predraft Leafs ranked 4th


Post Draft Leafs ranked 11th


Senators 29th post draft.

How could anyone have ranked them 4th pre draft? That is absurd.

I wonder how much dubas is paying him.

 

[Xspyrit]

And that he has Ottawa at 29th, is Ottawa really 18 spots behind Toronto.
What are his criteria.

Bader has always been the funniest of them all I think

29. Ottawa Senators The Sens' better prospects have essentially all graduated to full-time NHLers (Stutzle, Batherson, Norris, Brannstrom). Sanderson, Pinto and Greig are mostly all that's left.

All that's left? This is how we voted on the Sens board after the big 3 :

4- Mads Søgaard
5- Lassi Thomson
6- Jacob Bernard-Docker
7- Zack Ostapchuk
8- Tyler Boucher
9- Tyler Kleven
10- Roby Jarventie
11- Egor Sokolov
12- Viktor Lodin
13- Angus Crookshank
14- Tomas Hamara
15- Mark Kastelic
16- Parker Kelly
17- Leevi Merilainen
...

I mean, of course it's not comparable to 2020 as it was by far the best pool by far in Sens history but still pretty strong. Sogaard is a 6'7 athletic goalie who has already looked pretty good at the pro level. Thomson and JBD are pretty good D prospects, Ostapchuk is going to rise big time this season, Jarventie #10 just had a very strong WJC, Sokolov is #11 and has 75 pts in 99 AHL games, with a NHL shot and very good overall skill. Lodin just came to NA with 5 goals in his first 10 AHL games. Crookshank was injured last season but had 16 pts in his first 19 AHL games. Kastelic and Kelly are guaranteed NHLers. Etc, Etc, Etc

But anyway, I knew the pool would be massively underrated from an outside POV because of that stupid 2021 draft. However, Ostapchuk is the first one to emerge and will be an excellent prospect