HFBoards Top 50 Prospects Ranking #24 (closed)

[amnesiac]

TOP 50 PROSPECTS


Criteria is 22 and under, 30 NHL GP or less, no goalies

1. Owen Power - D		18. Alexander Holtz - RW		35.
2. Matty Beniers - C		19. Brandt Clarke - D		36.
3. Jake Sanderson - D		20. John Peterka - LW		37.
4. Luke Hughes - D		21. Dylan Guenther - RW		38.
5. Juraj Slafkovsky - LW		22. Lukas Reichel - C/W		39.
6. Shane Wright - C		23. Cutter Gauthier - C/LW		40.
7. Simon Edvinsson - D		24.		41.
8. Mason McTavish - C		25.		42.
9. Jack Quinn - W		26.		43.
10. Logan Cooley - C		27.		44.
11. Simon Nemec - D		28.		45.
12. Kent Johnson - C		29.		46.
13. David Jiricek - D		30.		47.
14. Wyatt Johnston - C		31.		48.
15. Marco Rossi - C		32.		49.
16. Cole Perfetti - C/RW		33.		50.
17. William Eklund - LW		34.

To add:
Danila Yurov - RW
Kevin Korchinski - D
Connor Geekie - C
Liam Ohgren - LW

Bobby Brink - RW
Matt Coronato - LW
Brendan Brisson - C
Nick Robertson - LW
Ridly Greig - C
Lukas Cormier - D
Alex Turcotte - C
Hendrix Lapierre - C
Topi Niemela - D
Zachary Bolduc - C
Carson Lambos - D
Nikita Chibrikov - RW
Chaz Lucius - C
Jack Rathbone - D
Joshua Roy - LW
Fabian Lysell - RW
Xavier Bourgault - C
Sakir Mukhamadullin - D
Luke Evangelista - RW
Jordan Spence - D
Thomas Bordeleau - C
Fedor Svechkov - C
Jacob Perrault - RW
Zac Jones - D
William Dufour - RW
Brock Faber - D
Sean Farrell - LW




Past lists:
HFBoards TOP 50 Prospects Ranking #50 FINAL (summer 2021)
HFBoards TOP 75 Prospects Ranking #75 (FINAL) (winter 2020-21)
HFBoards TOP 50 Prospects (summer 2019)
Top 50 Drafted Prospects 2018: #46 - #50 (summer 2018)
HFBoards TOP 50 Prospects #50 FINAL (summer 2017)

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[Favin]

My next prospects would be:

Kirill Marchenko
Brock Faber
Thomas Bordeleau
Justin Barron
Scott Morrow
Alex Turcotte

But none were options, so went with Knies over Holloway

 

[CallMeShaft]

Nazar

 

[snipes]

Holloway

 

[Lavar Ball]

Zellweger

 

[majormajor]

Mintyukov.

I also like Stankoven, Mateychuk, and Kasper here.

I think Faber, Morrow, and Bordeleau are top 30 or top 40 prospects so I'd like them added.

 

[EdJovanovski]

You already know

 

[LaMasquerade]

You already know

Heh.. and me saying Raty for N'th time..

 

[amnesiac]

Savoie
Pelletier
Kemell
Stankoven
Guhle
Zellweger
Heinola/Soderstrom

 

[KevinRedkey]

Are we voting on how good they are now, or how good we think they will become?

 

[FlyguyOX]

Need to be posting this on the prospects board to get more votes

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

Are we voting on how good they are now, or how good we think they will become?

I imagine a prospect's value would be a combination of floor and ceiling, so both. Up to the individual voter to weight them. At this point, I am not sure most of us can really earnestly vote with any kind of confidence, I am just going off 1 or 2 viewings and the musings of scouts now.

 

[GermanSpitfire]

Mathieu Sävoie

 

[Satan]

#StankOnMe

 

[amnesiac]

Are we voting on how good they are now, or how good we think they will become?

Become

Need to be posting this on the prospects board to get more votes

Doubt it, more people post here. Been doing this for 5 years.

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

Zellweger, I think he's going to dominate at the WJC and would then jump up in a re-ranking. He's on Clarke's level imo.

 

[Mrb1p]

Its Nazar again

 

[GermanSpitfire]

Its Nazar again

I’ll bite - I like Nazar, but I want to know what you see in him to have him roughly top-10 in the entire NHL as a prospects.

From my numerous viewings of him I find he takes shifts off, which is something I find worrying in prospects. Especially when it happens on the international stage.

I have heard some say he is “elite” defensively, which is something I disagree with and there is still quite a bit of work to be done in this aspect of his game. If he wants to be a centre at the next level he is going to need significant improvement in this area - I also view him as a winger at the next level so his defensive deficiencies shouldn’t hurt him as much.

He can have elite puck skills, yes. But I couldn’t count how many times he had trouble receiving even the easiest of passes at time. Or when he has the puck he would lose it in the dumbest ways, whether that be over puck handling, him getting scared of pressure, or just holding onto the puck for too long when he could have gotten rid of it making a good play sooner. It doesn’t happen ALL the time, but it happens often enough for me to take notice.

I also want to see what he does without Cooley and Howard, and it could drastically improve his stock for me.

 

[bsu]

Zellweger.

 

[Zach716]

Matty Savwah
Nazar
Kasper

 

[Mrb1p]

I’ll bite - I like Nazar, but I want to know what you see in him to have him roughly top-10 in the entire NHL as a prospects.

From my numerous viewings of him I find he takes shifts off, which is something I find worrying in prospects. Especially when it happens on the international stage.

I have heard some say he is “elite” defensively, which is something I disagree with and there is still quite a bit of work to be done in this aspect of his game. If he wants to be a centre at the next level he is going to need significant improvement in this area - I also view him as a winger at the next level so his defensive deficiencies shouldn’t hurt him as much.

He can have elite puck skills, yes. But I couldn’t count how many times he had trouble receiving even the easiest of passes at time. Or when he has the puck he would lose it in the dumbest ways, whether that be over puck handling, him getting scared of pressure, or just holding onto the puck for too long when he could have gotten rid of it making a good play sooner. It doesn’t happen ALL the time, but it happens often enough for me to take notice.

I also want to see what he does without Cooley and Howard, and it could drastically improve his stock for me.

Im a bit puzzled by your evaluation of Nazar.

First, the pass reception concerns...? Hes one of the most impressive player hand-eye coordination wise, he can tip, handle and receive passes in a variety of ways that only a few players can. Hes certainly was the best on the US squad on that end.

You say hes scared of contact? He literally takes the middle and cuts in at a higher rate than anyone else on the US team? His inside game is elite and he constantly challenged defenders with his skating and body positioning.

Hes not elite defensively, but its easy to see that with a little coaching he could be and its true that he lacks effort in the Dzone... but who fkn cares about that, Ive seen even Jonathan Drouin turn it up when it was needed in the Dzone.

Hes been forcing plays but so has Cooley, and while Nazar has been forcing them while in close contact, Cooley has been forcing them on the outside, Id much rather see the first than the latter.

You seem to focus on very uninportant parts, sure he floats at times without the puck, so does Kucherov. Hes probably not gonna be a C, but it should be a plus that hes versatile and can play all three positions. His D game isnt particularly good but he does present a package that would see him be a good, at least, supporting player in that regard.

 

[GermanSpitfire]

Im a bit puzzled by your evaluation of Nazar.

First, the pass reception concerns...? Hes one of the most impressive player hand-eye coordination wise, he can tip, handle and receive passes in a variety of ways that only a few players can. Hes certainly was the best on the US squad on that end.

You say hes scared of contact? He literally takes the middle and cuts in at a higher rate than anyone else on the US team? His inside game is elite and he constantly challenged defenders with his skating and body positioning.

Hes not elite defensively, but its easy to see that with a little coaching he could be and its true that he lacks effort in the Dzone... but who fkn cares about that, Ive seen even Jonathan Drouin turn it up when it was needed in the Dzone.

Hes been forcing plays but so has Cooley, and while Nazar has been forcing them while in close contact, Cooley has been forcing them on the outside, Id much rather see the first than the latter.

You seem to focus on very uninportant parts, sure he floats at times without the puck, so does Kucherov. Hes probably not gonna be a C, but it should be a plus that hes versatile and can play all three positions. His D game isnt particularly good but he does present a package that would see him be a good, at least, supporting player in that regard.

So what i'm getting from this is you believe his upside is similar to that of a Zegras, Cooley or a Kent Johnson, no?

I can agree with that, he possesses the skill set to be as good as those guys.

So that begs the question, how likely do you believe this outcome is? I don't believe it's all that likely, I believe he projects closer to a second liner similar to TJ Oshie. I can obviously assume you believe it's high but how high?

 

[Mrb1p]

So what i'm getting from this is you believe his upside is similar to that of a Zegras, Cooley or a Kent Johnson, no?

I can agree with that, he possesses the skill set to be as good as those guys.

So that begs the question, how likely do you believe this outcome is? I don't believe it's all that likely, I believe he projects closer to a second liner similar to TJ Oshie. I can obviously assume you believe it's high but how high?

Precisely, I had Nazar 4th overall ahead of Slaf and Cooley. He has top line upside and his game is pretty safe, in that hes not going to be anything less than a 2nd liner IMO.

I see him and Cooley as can't miss prospects, a tad higher than Johnson.

 

[GermanSpitfire]

Precisely, I had Nazar 4th overall ahead of Slaf and Cooley. He has top line upside and his game is pretty safe, in that hes not going to be anything less than a 2nd liner IMO.

I see him and Cooley as can't miss prospects, a tad higher than Johnson.

Fair enough - appreciate the discourse.

 

[RememberTheName]

Danila Yurov. Hope he gets added soon. Him being selected 24th is not representative of him as a hockey player in any way. He was easily a top 10 guy in the class (I had him at 5) and got dropped due to circumstances outside of his control (the Russian factor and getting absolutely screwed in terms of playing time with Magnitogorsk).

I'd probably vote Morrow next and he's also not in the poll, but him and Nazar are pretty close.