HFBoards Top 32 Wingers - #8

[LT]

Rank	Player	Votes	Team	GP	G	A	P
1	Nikita Kucherov	80/97 (93%)	Tampa Bay Lightning	47	25	44	69
2	Kirill Kaprizov	113/225 (50%)	Minnesota Wild	81	47	61	108
3	Mitch Marner	46/226 (20%)	Toronto Maple Leafs	72	35	62	97
4	Artemi Panarin	58/171 (34%)	New York Rangers	75	22	74	96
5	Brad Marchand	47/184 (26%)	Boston Bruins	70	32	48	80
6	Jonathan Huberdeau	41/153 (27%)	Calgary Flames	80	30	85	115
7	Johnny Gaudreau	75/198 (38%)	Columbus Blue Jackets	82	40	75	115
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To add:
Nikolaj Ehlers
Vladimir Tarasenko
Joe Pavelski
Max Pacioretty
Patrik Laine
Andrei Svechnikov
Brady Tkachuk
Timo Meier
Chris Kreider
Evander Kane

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[Lavar Ball]

Rantanen overdue

 

[Machinehead]

Yeah, Rantanen. Why not?

 

[Buck Naked]

Kane does what Rantanen does but on a crap team with Dylan Strome as his most common center.

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

Ovi is due as well. All due respect to Rantanen, but his numbers aren’t better than Ovi’s, and he’s the 3rd best player on a loaded Avs team.

 

[Fear]

Kinda crazy how many of these wingers are at a similar level of play.

 

[RapidKnight]

I think Stone is the best when health but I’m not going to gamble against Rantanen and Robertson.

Kane does what Rantanen does but on a crap team with Dylan Strome as his most common center.

Well Rantanen’s on-ice results are almost identical with or without MacKinnon. MacKinnon is more productive relative to his linemates but it doesn’t mean he’s that much more impactful. I think the main cause of the discrepancy is that MacKinnon shoots far more and gets many more puck touches while his linemates do the dirty work for him. My main point is MacKinnon is not the type of player who makes his linemates better.

 

[amnesiac]

Kane

add Pacioretty, Pavelski

to add: Giroux, Wheeler

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Rantanen is overrated. Give me the old boys Kane and Ovi

 

[MasterofGrond]

kane, ovy, rantenen, all good options here.

 

[Buck Naked]

I think Stone is the best when health but I’m not going to gamble against Rantanen and Robertson.

Well Rantanen’s on-ice results are almost identical with or without MacKinnon. MacKinnon is more productive relative to his linemates but it doesn’t mean he’s that much more impactful. I think the main cause of the discrepancy is that MacKinnon shoots far more and gets many more puck touches while his linemates do the dirty work for him. My main point is MacKinnon is not the type of player who makes his linemates better.

So what you're basically saying is that people's assessment of Rantanen is based of off a few games Rantanen played without MacKinnon in the past few years since that's when he actually gets to show his real skills?

It's not just MacKinnon though, of course. My reasoning for Kane over Rantanen is basically for the same reason Kaprizov is #2 on this list. What they do, they do without elite support at any position. Rantanen has one season where he's outscored Kane and that was 17/18. And while also being a much better 5v5 producer, coupled with being the undisputed driver on his line, I absolutely think Kane should be above Rantanen.

 

[Shawn Heins 44]

All I can say is Guentzel is perfect for the Pens, not sure I would trade him for any of these players. That being said I cannot 100% say he is the best of the choices, just to me on the Pens he is the best choice.

 

[RapidKnight]

So what you're basically saying is that people's assessment of Rantanen is based of off a few games Rantanen played without MacKinnon in the past few years since that's when he actually gets to show his real skills?

It's not just MacKinnon though, of course. My reasoning for Kane over Rantanen is basically for the same reason Kaprizov is #2 on this list. What they do, they do without elite support at any position. Rantanen has one season where he's outscored Kane and that was 17/18. And while also being a much better 5v5 producer, coupled with being the undisputed driver on his line, I absolutely think Kane should be above Rantanen.

I’m not trying to argue for anyone else. The stats I referenced from the last few seasons are equivalent to 45 games. I agree that Rantanen’s 5v5 totals are measly so I consulted other stats instead of using narratives to defend Rantanen. He’s not showing any more skills without MacKinnon. The work outside the offensive zone still gets done and an individual player doesn’t hog all the shot attempts. At the end of the day defense is the difference maker not offense.

The difference between Kaprizov and Kane is Kaprizov is a much better 5v5 scorer, is much better at drawing penalties, and is a much better defensive player. Personal I think he should be first.

 

[Peasy]

Patty Kane.

 

[Lavar Ball]

I'd add Buchnevich and Kyrou to the "To Add" group

 

[MasterMatt25]

Add Kyrou