Prospect Info: HF Top 50 NHL Prospects (Spring Edition) - Connor Brown at #50.

[McMatthews]

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/articl...first-group-of-nhl-prospects-in-spring-update

Really surprised.

The top 40 will be released in the coming weeks.

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[The Podium]

More surprised because I would not consider him our best prospect yet can't see any others being on the list. Good year for him though

 

[McMatthews]

More surprised because I would not consider him our best prospect yet can't see any others being on the list. Good year for him though

Josh Leivo and Matt Finn might be long shots to make the top 40.

HF's bi-annual lists are kind of nuts sometimes.

 

[7even]

"Stand to improve his defensive game."

Voted one of best penalty killers in his conference by OHL coaches

 

[ConnorTO]

Nielson is the best prospect

 

[Schenn]

Pleasantly surprised by that. Good for Brown.

 

[McMatthews]

HF's Top 50 list in 2000:

Rnk. Name Pos. Team Pts Votes
1. Roberto Luongo G Florida 300 6
2. Daniel Sedin RW Vancouver 291 6
3. Henrik Sedin C Vancouver 288 6
4. Pavel Brendl RW Rangers 266 6
5. Milan Kraft C Pittsburgh 253 6
6. Kris Beech C Washington 248 6
7. Marian Gaborik LW Minnesota 239 6
8. Dany Heatley LW Atlanta 238 6
9. Denis Shvidki RW Florida 236 6
10. Jamie Lundmark C Rangers 234 6

11. Mika Noronen G Buffalo 233 6
12t. Rick DiPietro G Islanders 225 6
12t. Vitaly Vishnevsky D Anaheim 225 6
14. Oleg Saprykin C Calgary 223 6
15. Jeff Jillson D San Jose 220 6
16. Maxime Oullette G Philadelphia 208 6
17. Rostislav Klesla D Columbus 194 6
18. Taylor Pyatt LW Islanders 193 6
19. Martin Havlat C Ottawa 169 6
20. Steve McCarthy D Chicago 166 6

21. Ladislav Nagy C St. Louis 161 6
22. Kiril Safranov D Phoenix 156 6
23t. J-S Giguere G Anaheim 147 6
23t. Dimitri Kalinin D Buffalo 147 6
25t. Brian Finley G Nashville 145 6
25t. Ivan Novoseltsev RW Florida 145 6
27. Maxim Balmochnykh RW Anaheim 137 6
28. Rico Fata C/RW Calgary 130 6
29. Bryan Allen D Vancouver 99 5
30. David Tanabe D Carolina 97 6

31. Raffi Torres LW Islanders 94 5
32. Mike Van Ryn D St. Louis 93 6
33. Petr Schastlivy LW Ottawa 77 5
34. Michal Sivek C Washington 75 6
35. Scott Hartnell C Nashville 68 4
36. Brad Richards C Tampa Bay 67 6
37. Mikhail Yakubov C Chicago 56 5
38. Alexei Smirnov C Anaheim 52 3
39. Mark Bell C Chicago 50 6
40. Barret Jackman D St. Louis 45 4

41. J-M Pelletier G Carolina 42 4
42. Daniel Tkaczuk C Calgary 39 4
43. Ari Ahonen G New Jersey 37 5
44. Alexei Tezikov D Washington 29 3
45. Branislav Mezei D Islanders 28 3
46. Samuel Pahlsson C Boston 26 3
47. Eric Chouinard C Montreal 23 2
48. Kristian Huselius RW Florida 21 4
49t. Andrei Markov D Montreal 16 4
49t. David Aebischer G Colorado 16 2

Honorable Mention

Michel Riesen RW Edmonton
Mathieu Garon G Montreal
Konstantin Koltsov LW Pittsburgh
Alexey Volkov G Los Angeles
Sheldon Keefe RW Tampa Bay
Ossi Vannanen D Phoenix
Michael Henrich RW Edmonton
Marty Turco G Dallas
Pavel Vorobiev RW Chicago
Lars Jonsson D Boston
Dimtri Afanasenkov LW Tampa Bay
Brent Krahn G Calgary
Barrett Heisten LW Buffalo
Jeff Heerema RW Carolina
Brooks Orpik D Pittsburgh
Richard Jackman D Dallas
Nick Boynton D Boston
Mike Mottau D Rangers
Vaclav Nedorost C Colorado
Zdenek Blatny C Atlanta
Jeff Farkas LW Toronto
Jonathan Girard D Boston

https://web.archive.org/web/20010409001825/http://hockeysfuture.com/2000top50.html

Henrik Zetterberg and Pavel Datsyuk didn't make the cut.

 

[BayStBullies]

HF's Top 50 list in 2000:



https://web.archive.org/web/20010409001825/http://hockeysfuture.com/2000top50.html

Henrik Zetterberg and Pavel Datsyuk didn't make the cut.

Well.. no ****.

Have you been living under a rock? They weren't exactly expected to be top prospects at the time; heck, every team passed on them repeatedly.................

 

[McMatthews]

Well.. no ****.

Have you been living under a rock? They weren't exactly expected to be top prospects at the time; heck, every team passed on them repeatedly.................

Two hall of famers, you would think a website dedicated to hockey prospects would have listed them as honourable mentions at least.

 

[McMatthews]

HF's top 50 in 2004: https://web.archive.org/web/20050530001743/http://www.hockeysfuture.com/top50.php

Zherdev ahead of Malkin.

Ryan Getzlaf at 30.
Corey Perry at 36.
Mike Richards at 39.
Ryan Miller at 41.

All behind...

Cam Barker (11)
Anthony Stewart (18)
Maxime Ouellet (19)
Alvaro Montoya (20)
Anton Babchuk (21)
Patrick O'Sullivan (22)
Hannu Toivonen (23)
Steve Eminger (27)
Lauri Tukonen (28)

 

[Man Bear Pig]

Two hall of famers, you would think a website dedicated to hockey prospects would have listed them as honourable mentions at least.

How many 6th and 7th round picks make these lists every year? Both were considered long-shots at best, like every prospect taken that late and both were playing in Europe at that time.

 

[Man Bear Pig]

HF's top 50 in 2004: https://web.archive.org/web/20050530001743/http://www.hockeysfuture.com/top50.php

Zherdev ahead of Malkin.

Ryan Getzlaf at 30.
Corey Perry at 36.
Mike Richards at 39.
Ryan Miller at 41.

All behind...

Cam Barker (11)
Anthony Stewart (18)
Maxime Ouellet (19)
Alvaro Montoya (20)
Anton Babchuk (21)
Patrick O'Sullivan (22)
Hannu Toivonen (23)
Steve Eminger (27)
Lauri Tukonen (28)

Prospect lists are just that, prospect lists. They aren't crystal balls. Hindsight sure is great isn't it?

 

[McMatthews]

How many 6th and 7th round picks make these lists every year? Both were considered long-shots at best, like every prospect taken that late and both were playing in Europe at that time.

That's my point.

Andreas Johnson can become a star in the NHL and these lists have as much credibility as the lists you and I put together.

 

[TheCLAM]

That's my point.

Andreas Johnson can become a star in the NHL and these lists have as much credibility as the lists you and I put together.

Anyone can become a star out of a late round. The talent pool in hockey is really close, some players just don't have what it takes to play at the top level.

 

[Teeder9]

That's my point.

Andreas Johnson can become a star in the NHL and these lists have as much credibility as the lists you and I put together.

I hope this hasn't just occurred to you. My opinion is as good as your opinion is as good as their opinion when it comes to players not in the NHL. You never know how the next step goes for any player.

 

[Joey Hoser]

Two hall of famers, you would think a website dedicated to hockey prospects would have listed them as honourable mentions at least.

Every NHL team picked 5-6 guys before them in their draft. Why would you think a website/magazine would be more accurate?

 

[-DeMo-]

That's my point.

Andreas Johnson can become a star in the NHL and these lists have as much credibility as the lists you and I put together.

just out of curiosity if you think these list's have no credibility why did you start the thread about it?

 

[McMatthews]

The layout of the lists and the fact that they make you wait 2 or 3 weeks for the entire top 50, which usually has tons of mistakes and inconsistencies. Connor Brown isn't even our top prospect but he'll likely be the only Maple Leafs prospect in the top 50. It doesn't add up to their team prospect rankings.

 

[johnny_rudeboy]

"Stand to improve his defensive game."

Voted one of best penalty killers in his conference by OHL coaches

Penelty killing and playing good d 5v5 is not the same thing. Just as some really good defensive players are not used on the PK.
From what I get Brown is considered a smart guy who reads the play very well and who also works really hard. But defensively 5v5 perhaps he struggle to cover his man/zone while in the more static PK he adjust better?

It is however nice that he gets some recognition. Is it the Marlies next year for him?

 

[Grant]

Penelty killing and playing good d 5v5 is not the same thing. Just as some really good defensive players are not used on the PK.
From what I get Brown is considered a smart guy who reads the play very well and who also works really hard. But defensively 5v5 perhaps he struggle to cover his man/zone while in the more static PK he adjust better?

It is however nice that he gets some recognition. Is it the Marlies next year for him?

Probably (at least I think he is eligible?). He completely dominated the OHL offensively this year. Winning the scoring race by about 20 points, and the person in 2nd was his line mate. Going to the Marlies would start getting him accustomed to playing the game at a higher pace and would start to play against physically tougher players. He has the offense down pat, it's the other aspects of the game that he needs work on.

 

[Leaf Lander]

The never even had him as a top 100 prospect


He is a leaf fan who totally bless blue and white

 

[Tyler Biggs*]

Let's see what he can do at the AHL level, I think he will pot a few goals and add a few assists, he is still a few years away from the NHL.

 

[Faltorvo]

I really don't know if I want to lmfao or cry.

1 leaf at 50 and that's it. ROFL.

 

[Tyler Biggs*]

Brown fed Fox, McDavid and everybody else - Brown had 83 assists!

 

[The Podium]

I really don't know if I want to lmfao or cry.

1 leaf at 50 and that's it. ROFL.

Most of the top 50 are recent top picks or players who were drafted in the 1st or second round 3-5 years ago or that odd late round pick. Had Kadri and Rielly still been considered prospects (for example the top 10 has Trouba, Murray, etc.) then we would have 3 in the top 50 which would be above average. I don't know about you but I rather have players graduate to the NHL than have them on a meaningless list.