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This thread is for the rules and your roster posts only, we will use the other thread for everything else.
It's that time of year again, the 2018 edition of the HF Avs Mock Offseason is ready to begin. Please read everything carefully to make the game smooth for all of us.
I'd like to get this started by Monday 4/30 if possible that way we have the actual Draft Lottery results.
For purposes of this mock, all salary, draft pick, cap hit and clause information, unless otherwise noted, will follow the ones shown at CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps.
Mock offseason event order:
Dispersal Draft
Trading opens
RFA re-signing period
Offersheet Period
Entry draft
RFA re-signing and buy-out period
Unrestricted Free Agency
Waivers
Publishing of final rosters
Mock Admins: Forsbergavs32, AslanRH, Tweaky
It's preferable to you can visit here at least once a day. Not absolutely necessary on some days but on some others it's preferable if you can be here many times during the course of the day. If for whatever reason you can't be here for a particular part of this game please let an admin know and give a list to one of us so you can get the player/prospect/re-sign you're looking for and we can move the game along quicker.
This year with the salary cap probably going up we'll go with 80 million for this mock. Teams may not go over the salary cap at any point, however you may go under the cap floor(60m) as long as you are above the floor by the publishing of final rosters.
Any player or their rights can be traded and picks can be traded between GMs.The exception is for players who signed an offer sheet (whether matched or not). Signed UFAs can't be traded either. Teams will have draft picks in rounds 1-4 for 2018 and 2019. For purposes of this mock, teams don't have any picks 2020 or later and they can't be traded.
Team Selection and Rosters:
For team selection order, we will take the list of GMs and randomize them as per usual. Everyone will be given a 2 hour time limit to select their team so if you can't be here PLEASE submit a list. Should you miss your turn and don't submit a list, you will have to pick from whatever teams are remaining.
Rosters and salary must be kept up to date at all times for the ease of the admins and to help you ensure you have the salary to complete a trade. teams must also keep their 20 player minimum on their roster (plug in AHLers if you have to), the exception to this is goaltenders, you may carry one goalie until the end of UFA. These conditions must be met in order for any trades or signings to be accepted by the admins. I don't really care how your roster post is set up as long as it's up to date and somewhat organized.
Trading:
Trading will open when the game begins. As mentioned earlier, all players and draft picks (2018 and 2019 rounds 1-4, 2019 don't do much in this mock other than give you more sweeteners for trades.) are available for trade, with the exception of offersheeted players and signed UFAs. Both GMs must post regarding a trade (one posts and one confirms) and need to use @forsbergavs32, @Tweaky and @AslanRH in their posts so we can find the trades easily. If GMs disagree with a trade, the 2-3 GMs involved will be asked to revise or scrap the deal (eg. Giant overpayments or attempts to gut their team for peanuts ect... may be disqualified by their peers, so no trading McDavid for Gabriel Bourque and a 2nd).
NMC/NTC Trades
We've gone around looking for ways to make this easy and reduce the arguing from last year but I think this will be the best way to go about it: Any trade involving a player with a NMC or NTC clause must be sent to AslanRH and forsbergavs32 by BOTH GMs with an explanation of why the player will waive to the other team. It needs to be somewhat realistic (Parise won't waive for NYR, Stamkos won't waive for Arizona, etc...). Any NMC trade posted without PMing for admin approval will be immediately vetoed.
A GM may make a case for an exception for their player who has a NMC/NTC (hometown, previous team, friend/sibling, likely role on team, etc), and if you have a player in question of where they might go then an admin can provide an 8 to 10 team accepted list for that player.
UFA signing prior to UFA period:
- Teams may re-sign one UFA prior to the UFA period (at any time before UFA)
- close to market value contract or above
- window of the day before the draft to trade a signed UFA
- after draft begins or after player is traded, that player may not be traded again
There will be a small list of players that will test UFA, the list will be decided by the admins and posted.
In a sign and trade scenario, the signing team would be allowed to go over the cap if the amount puts them over the cap (ex. Stastny on the jets), but a trade needs to be agreed on before asking about re-signing.
Offersheet Period:
Teams may submit offersheets for unsigned RFAs (Teams are allowed to re-sign TWO RFAs prior to the offersheet period). Teams will have 48 hours to submit their offersheets via PM to the admins, terms of the offer will not be disclosed until the offer is accepted by 2 of the 3 admins. To determine if a player will sign, admins will use the amount and term of the deal offered, but high ranked teams in desirability can sway an offer if multiple offersheets are given to the same player. Once the offersheet is accepted, the current owner of the player will have 48 hours to match (this will probably bleed into the draft a bit).
Compensation levels
$0.600 - $1.239 = no compensation
$1.240-1.879 = 3rd
$1.880-3.749 = 2nd
$3.750-5.629 = 1st
$5.630-7.509 = 1st + 2nd
$7.510- $14.600 = 1st + 1st + 2nd (*2 1sts must not exceed 40). Must have own pick or better with exception of team in top 5 who may use any 1st within the top 10 as equivalent. (this is where those 2019 picks can also come in handy).
Entry Draft:
The draft will cover the first 3 rounds of the 2018 draft and will start the day after the 48 hour window to SUMBIT offersheets. Use capfriendly.com to find out which picks your team owns. For those not too familiar with prospects (I'm sure that's a good amount of us) there are draft rankings readily available online, just google 2018 NHL draft rankings.
There will be a time frame available to make your pick, if you cannot make the pick in that time frame, a player will be selected for you ( highest ranked North American skater available from central scouting). We all know that people sleep and there are different time zones for everyone, so there will be a bit of leeway overnight. Now obviously everybody can't take the max limit of hours or we would never finish, so please pick as soon as you are ready. For any traded picks during the draft, the clock will not reset. Time frame is Four hours for 1st round picks. Three hours for 2nd and two hours for 3rd round picks. If you are one of those big prospect people, any remaining undrafted players may be signed during the final UFA phase. This is open to change, depending how fast or slow the draft goes and is pretty much guaranteed to change at some point so watch out for that. If your pick goes auto-mock, player will be selected for you, every pick after that will also go auto-mock unless you announce that you will make your next pick. This is done to speed up the draft process. The draft clock ticks between 7AM and 10PM MDT (if your pick is up around 10pm and you want to make your pick during the overnight hours that's fine. just make sure you also @ the next person so they can make their pick in the morning when the clock resumes). You are allowed to make your pick outside that time frame and it's advisable if you can do it.
***NOTE*** Please make sure that once you make your selection you @ the next person so we can keep stuff moving. If previous poster didn't @you and your pick was auto-picked, we can allow you to re-pick if the player you wanted hasn't been taken. Assuming you announce this pretty close to your draft pick position, not something like 20 picks late
If you can't make your pick in time, it's ok, it happens as we all have work/school/life events. If you know you can't make your pick in time, PM forsbergavs32, Tweaky, or AslanRH with a list of players you'd like to take there (assuming they are still available, otherwise we'll go with next CS NA player). Or you could leave that pick just to be chosen by someone else who agrees to do it for you. The more comprehensive list (in order of preference) you give, the better chance you get one of your players as many of them might be gone by the time your pick is gone. Obviously if there's only one pick between you, only 2 player list is necessary etc.
I'll update the draft post with the picks as best I can and try to give info on OP on where the draft is going (mid-1st, early 4th etc.) but I can't monitor things 24/7 (especially between work, sleep and school) so check the final pages of the thread. Make sure your spelling is correct with the your draft pick names. To make sure, search for the thread on the player name you're going to pick to make sure the player hasn't already been taken. If you pick a player that has been taken already, please correct it ASAP as to keep things as organized as possible.
Full draft list will be up in the post once the draft lottery is done.
Making offers for players, RFA, UFA, ELC:
Buy-out period:
Buy-out period will start after the entry draft, will last 24 hours, after which the free agency starts. This is the only time a player can be bought out. Buy-outs will follow the rules of current CBA unless otherwise noted.
Bought out players will be unrestricted free agents and eligible to be signed by every team except for the one that bought him out.
This will be where things are a bit different this year. One year buyouts will go by capfriendly's buyout calculator. Buyouts will be set at 50% of the player's cap hit for 2 year deals, but if the player has 3 or more years on their contract, the buyout will increase to 75% you have to retain. Teams may buyout as many players as they'd like but be aware of it because it will eat cap space.
Depending on time constraints, buy-out period could be done simultaneously with RFA re-signings.
RFA re-signings:
This is where you can sign your remaining RFAs not signed before the offersheet period. Teams post their offers to RFAs within the thread during the RFA signing period. In some cases it might be long-term contract, in some cases it might be just qualifying the player. In a case team qualifies a player, but the admins think the player wouldn't accept the offer, the team would maintain the players rights but player remains unsigned and you would need to re-submit an offer. As the offer sheet period is already over, player can't be offer sheeted.
RFAs don't obviously have to be qualified. Unqualified RFAs would become UFAs. Capfriendly also has qualifying offer calculator, so that should be your best bet for submitting QOs.
RFA re-signing period lasts 24 hours. Any RFAs not signed before UFA starts will become UFAs during this mock, likely in the final phase unless they are a bigger named player.
Signing to players to ELC does not need to be approved, just needs to be done during the re-sign phase or UFA phase.
Unrestricted Free Agency:
Free Agency will go back to the phase format used a couple years ago. Major UFAs will be broken up into 3 phases (10 in each), then a 4th and final phase will be used for the remaining UFAs. Offers will be submitted to a selected agent via PM for the first 3 phases. For the 4th phase, there will be agents for each position (West forwards, East forwards, West D-men, East D-men, and Goalies). All goalies will be in the 4th phase since there are very few worthwhile UFA goalies. Phases will be 24 hours each.
UFA agents will be determined closer to the UFA phase.
Waivers:
Teams can still make trades for 24 hours after UFA is over if needed.
Waivers will be done after UFA to finish off rosters. More information on waivers can be found on the following link. Capfriendly should also have waiver information on every player. If those aren't clear enough, ask, and you shall receive information on player's waiver statuses.
Waivers will follow reverse regular season standings post-draft lottery.
As the waivers start, no trades or signings are allowed anymore. Teams post their NHL rosters and waiver eligible players not in them will be waived. Teams can't claim players if they have 23 players on the roster or if they don't have the cap space. All players will be waived at the same time. Time to put a claim on player(s) is 12 hours.
After waivers, mock is over, just finalize your roster.
Some additional rules/tips:
Any transaction can be rejected if there isn't a reason to believe that it could actually happen (with these mock rules). Other players in the top 5-7 could go first overall, unranked prospects no one has ever hear of could not. Evgeni Malkin could be traded for kings ransom. Evgeni Malkin couldn't not be traded for a 6th round pick. Avs/Yotes could blow it up. Hawks/Caps could not. And so on. Please keep in mind as I mentioned above, that anything like this can be vetoed by the admins or your peers, so keep it semi-realistic.
Players who are guaranteed or basically guaranteed to not play anymore are excluded for all purposes in this mock unless otherwise noted. These players include: Franzen, Pronger, Robidas, Clowe, Horton, Dupuis, Ohlund, Savard.
If you have player on your roster who won't play anymore per a legit source, please let us know and we can expand the list.
Unless noted otherwise, we'll follow the rules of the current NHL CBA.
If you have additions, corrections, recommendations, feel free to give them. Rules can change for this mock as we go if people have better ideas, fixes, additions. I want this to be a great experience for all of us so please don't hesitate to speak up.
If you need help or have questions, ask and you shall receive. If you have general questions, ask them in the thread. If it's only about your team, use PMs to an admin.
Finally, There will always be some new posters for this game (same goes for veteran posters) and we all want to enjoy this offseason game. I know some people are hesitant to do things because they're worried they'll make a bad trade or whatever, so if you see a trade go down that you think is bad or overpayment (within the mock rules) please keep it to yourself. I want this to be fun and I don't want anyone to feel like they're being shamed (I've seen it happen in the main mock board). If it's a trade that is unrealistic and should be vetoed then respectfully state that without any heckling.
Team Selection Order:
It's that time of year again, the 2018 edition of the HF Avs Mock Offseason is ready to begin. Please read everything carefully to make the game smooth for all of us.
I'd like to get this started by Monday 4/30 if possible that way we have the actual Draft Lottery results.
For purposes of this mock, all salary, draft pick, cap hit and clause information, unless otherwise noted, will follow the ones shown at CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps.
Mock offseason event order:
Dispersal Draft
Trading opens
RFA re-signing period
Offersheet Period
Entry draft
RFA re-signing and buy-out period
Unrestricted Free Agency
Waivers
Publishing of final rosters
Mock Admins: Forsbergavs32, AslanRH, Tweaky
It's preferable to you can visit here at least once a day. Not absolutely necessary on some days but on some others it's preferable if you can be here many times during the course of the day. If for whatever reason you can't be here for a particular part of this game please let an admin know and give a list to one of us so you can get the player/prospect/re-sign you're looking for and we can move the game along quicker.
This year with the salary cap probably going up we'll go with 80 million for this mock. Teams may not go over the salary cap at any point, however you may go under the cap floor(60m) as long as you are above the floor by the publishing of final rosters.
Any player or their rights can be traded and picks can be traded between GMs.The exception is for players who signed an offer sheet (whether matched or not). Signed UFAs can't be traded either. Teams will have draft picks in rounds 1-4 for 2018 and 2019. For purposes of this mock, teams don't have any picks 2020 or later and they can't be traded.
Team Selection and Rosters:
For team selection order, we will take the list of GMs and randomize them as per usual. Everyone will be given a 2 hour time limit to select their team so if you can't be here PLEASE submit a list. Should you miss your turn and don't submit a list, you will have to pick from whatever teams are remaining.
Rosters and salary must be kept up to date at all times for the ease of the admins and to help you ensure you have the salary to complete a trade. teams must also keep their 20 player minimum on their roster (plug in AHLers if you have to), the exception to this is goaltenders, you may carry one goalie until the end of UFA. These conditions must be met in order for any trades or signings to be accepted by the admins. I don't really care how your roster post is set up as long as it's up to date and somewhat organized.
Trading:
Trading will open when the game begins. As mentioned earlier, all players and draft picks (2018 and 2019 rounds 1-4, 2019 don't do much in this mock other than give you more sweeteners for trades.) are available for trade, with the exception of offersheeted players and signed UFAs. Both GMs must post regarding a trade (one posts and one confirms) and need to use @forsbergavs32, @Tweaky and @AslanRH in their posts so we can find the trades easily. If GMs disagree with a trade, the 2-3 GMs involved will be asked to revise or scrap the deal (eg. Giant overpayments or attempts to gut their team for peanuts ect... may be disqualified by their peers, so no trading McDavid for Gabriel Bourque and a 2nd).
NMC/NTC Trades
We've gone around looking for ways to make this easy and reduce the arguing from last year but I think this will be the best way to go about it: Any trade involving a player with a NMC or NTC clause must be sent to AslanRH and forsbergavs32 by BOTH GMs with an explanation of why the player will waive to the other team. It needs to be somewhat realistic (Parise won't waive for NYR, Stamkos won't waive for Arizona, etc...). Any NMC trade posted without PMing for admin approval will be immediately vetoed.
A GM may make a case for an exception for their player who has a NMC/NTC (hometown, previous team, friend/sibling, likely role on team, etc), and if you have a player in question of where they might go then an admin can provide an 8 to 10 team accepted list for that player.
UFA signing prior to UFA period:
- Teams may re-sign one UFA prior to the UFA period (at any time before UFA)
- close to market value contract or above
- window of the day before the draft to trade a signed UFA
- after draft begins or after player is traded, that player may not be traded again
There will be a small list of players that will test UFA, the list will be decided by the admins and posted.
In a sign and trade scenario, the signing team would be allowed to go over the cap if the amount puts them over the cap (ex. Stastny on the jets), but a trade needs to be agreed on before asking about re-signing.
Offersheet Period:
Teams may submit offersheets for unsigned RFAs (Teams are allowed to re-sign TWO RFAs prior to the offersheet period). Teams will have 48 hours to submit their offersheets via PM to the admins, terms of the offer will not be disclosed until the offer is accepted by 2 of the 3 admins. To determine if a player will sign, admins will use the amount and term of the deal offered, but high ranked teams in desirability can sway an offer if multiple offersheets are given to the same player. Once the offersheet is accepted, the current owner of the player will have 48 hours to match (this will probably bleed into the draft a bit).
Compensation levels
$0.600 - $1.239 = no compensation
$1.240-1.879 = 3rd
$1.880-3.749 = 2nd
$3.750-5.629 = 1st
$5.630-7.509 = 1st + 2nd
$7.510- $14.600 = 1st + 1st + 2nd (*2 1sts must not exceed 40). Must have own pick or better with exception of team in top 5 who may use any 1st within the top 10 as equivalent. (this is where those 2019 picks can also come in handy).
Entry Draft:
The draft will cover the first 3 rounds of the 2018 draft and will start the day after the 48 hour window to SUMBIT offersheets. Use capfriendly.com to find out which picks your team owns. For those not too familiar with prospects (I'm sure that's a good amount of us) there are draft rankings readily available online, just google 2018 NHL draft rankings.
There will be a time frame available to make your pick, if you cannot make the pick in that time frame, a player will be selected for you ( highest ranked North American skater available from central scouting). We all know that people sleep and there are different time zones for everyone, so there will be a bit of leeway overnight. Now obviously everybody can't take the max limit of hours or we would never finish, so please pick as soon as you are ready. For any traded picks during the draft, the clock will not reset. Time frame is Four hours for 1st round picks. Three hours for 2nd and two hours for 3rd round picks. If you are one of those big prospect people, any remaining undrafted players may be signed during the final UFA phase. This is open to change, depending how fast or slow the draft goes and is pretty much guaranteed to change at some point so watch out for that. If your pick goes auto-mock, player will be selected for you, every pick after that will also go auto-mock unless you announce that you will make your next pick. This is done to speed up the draft process. The draft clock ticks between 7AM and 10PM MDT (if your pick is up around 10pm and you want to make your pick during the overnight hours that's fine. just make sure you also @ the next person so they can make their pick in the morning when the clock resumes). You are allowed to make your pick outside that time frame and it's advisable if you can do it.
***NOTE*** Please make sure that once you make your selection you @ the next person so we can keep stuff moving. If previous poster didn't @you and your pick was auto-picked, we can allow you to re-pick if the player you wanted hasn't been taken. Assuming you announce this pretty close to your draft pick position, not something like 20 picks late
If you can't make your pick in time, it's ok, it happens as we all have work/school/life events. If you know you can't make your pick in time, PM forsbergavs32, Tweaky, or AslanRH with a list of players you'd like to take there (assuming they are still available, otherwise we'll go with next CS NA player). Or you could leave that pick just to be chosen by someone else who agrees to do it for you. The more comprehensive list (in order of preference) you give, the better chance you get one of your players as many of them might be gone by the time your pick is gone. Obviously if there's only one pick between you, only 2 player list is necessary etc.
I'll update the draft post with the picks as best I can and try to give info on OP on where the draft is going (mid-1st, early 4th etc.) but I can't monitor things 24/7 (especially between work, sleep and school) so check the final pages of the thread. Make sure your spelling is correct with the your draft pick names. To make sure, search for the thread on the player name you're going to pick to make sure the player hasn't already been taken. If you pick a player that has been taken already, please correct it ASAP as to keep things as organized as possible.
Full draft list will be up in the post once the draft lottery is done.
Making offers for players, RFA, UFA, ELC:
Buy-out period:
Buy-out period will start after the entry draft, will last 24 hours, after which the free agency starts. This is the only time a player can be bought out. Buy-outs will follow the rules of current CBA unless otherwise noted.
Bought out players will be unrestricted free agents and eligible to be signed by every team except for the one that bought him out.
This will be where things are a bit different this year. One year buyouts will go by capfriendly's buyout calculator. Buyouts will be set at 50% of the player's cap hit for 2 year deals, but if the player has 3 or more years on their contract, the buyout will increase to 75% you have to retain. Teams may buyout as many players as they'd like but be aware of it because it will eat cap space.
Depending on time constraints, buy-out period could be done simultaneously with RFA re-signings.
RFA re-signings:
This is where you can sign your remaining RFAs not signed before the offersheet period. Teams post their offers to RFAs within the thread during the RFA signing period. In some cases it might be long-term contract, in some cases it might be just qualifying the player. In a case team qualifies a player, but the admins think the player wouldn't accept the offer, the team would maintain the players rights but player remains unsigned and you would need to re-submit an offer. As the offer sheet period is already over, player can't be offer sheeted.
RFAs don't obviously have to be qualified. Unqualified RFAs would become UFAs. Capfriendly also has qualifying offer calculator, so that should be your best bet for submitting QOs.
RFA re-signing period lasts 24 hours. Any RFAs not signed before UFA starts will become UFAs during this mock, likely in the final phase unless they are a bigger named player.
Signing to players to ELC does not need to be approved, just needs to be done during the re-sign phase or UFA phase.
Unrestricted Free Agency:
Free Agency will go back to the phase format used a couple years ago. Major UFAs will be broken up into 3 phases (10 in each), then a 4th and final phase will be used for the remaining UFAs. Offers will be submitted to a selected agent via PM for the first 3 phases. For the 4th phase, there will be agents for each position (West forwards, East forwards, West D-men, East D-men, and Goalies). All goalies will be in the 4th phase since there are very few worthwhile UFA goalies. Phases will be 24 hours each.
UFA agents will be determined closer to the UFA phase.
Waivers:
Teams can still make trades for 24 hours after UFA is over if needed.
Waivers will be done after UFA to finish off rosters. More information on waivers can be found on the following link. Capfriendly should also have waiver information on every player. If those aren't clear enough, ask, and you shall receive information on player's waiver statuses.
Waivers will follow reverse regular season standings post-draft lottery.
As the waivers start, no trades or signings are allowed anymore. Teams post their NHL rosters and waiver eligible players not in them will be waived. Teams can't claim players if they have 23 players on the roster or if they don't have the cap space. All players will be waived at the same time. Time to put a claim on player(s) is 12 hours.
After waivers, mock is over, just finalize your roster.
Some additional rules/tips:
Any transaction can be rejected if there isn't a reason to believe that it could actually happen (with these mock rules). Other players in the top 5-7 could go first overall, unranked prospects no one has ever hear of could not. Evgeni Malkin could be traded for kings ransom. Evgeni Malkin couldn't not be traded for a 6th round pick. Avs/Yotes could blow it up. Hawks/Caps could not. And so on. Please keep in mind as I mentioned above, that anything like this can be vetoed by the admins or your peers, so keep it semi-realistic.
Players who are guaranteed or basically guaranteed to not play anymore are excluded for all purposes in this mock unless otherwise noted. These players include: Franzen, Pronger, Robidas, Clowe, Horton, Dupuis, Ohlund, Savard.
If you have player on your roster who won't play anymore per a legit source, please let us know and we can expand the list.
Unless noted otherwise, we'll follow the rules of the current NHL CBA.
If you have additions, corrections, recommendations, feel free to give them. Rules can change for this mock as we go if people have better ideas, fixes, additions. I want this to be a great experience for all of us so please don't hesitate to speak up.
If you need help or have questions, ask and you shall receive. If you have general questions, ask them in the thread. If it's only about your team, use PMs to an admin.
Finally, There will always be some new posters for this game (same goes for veteran posters) and we all want to enjoy this offseason game. I know some people are hesitant to do things because they're worried they'll make a bad trade or whatever, so if you see a trade go down that you think is bad or overpayment (within the mock rules) please keep it to yourself. I want this to be fun and I don't want anyone to feel like they're being shamed (I've seen it happen in the main mock board). If it's a trade that is unrealistic and should be vetoed then respectfully state that without any heckling.
Team Selection Order:
- Murzu
- NOTENOUGHBREWER
- Forsbergavs32
- Vancouver Canucks
- xking23
- VanIslander
- PAZ
- Avs44
- donut
- lonelybadger
- ljb4
- Tryamkin
- UncleRisto
- Pierce Hawthorne
- Scholarships
- AslanRH
- RumpleSnipeSkin
- Cody275
- Paneerboy
- Dabeast
- Wayneherb
- Retinalz
- Tweaky
- Congo Jack
- The Abusement Park
- Mischief Managed
- nbonaddio
- landy92mack29
- cgf
- Cody275
- xking23
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