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Has a player ever registered a point per game in a season... in other words.. did he player end up on the score sheet every game?
An 82 game scoring streak?Has a player ever registered a point per game in a season... in other words.. did he player end up on the score sheet every game?
No. Gretzky has the record for most consecutive games with a point: 51 in 83-84.
I'd think that someone in the 20's may have...
Dunno for sure but that is very possible. 20s or earlier.
I'd think that someone in the 20's may have...
I looked into this.
In 1918, only the Ottawa Senators weren't shut out at least once. (If a team gets shut, then every player on it has at least one scoreless game). Ottawa's top player was Cy Denneny with 46 points in 22 games. He played in every game that year. So he might be a possibility. I estimate there's about a 6% chance of him scoring once in every game given his stats.
In 1919, again, only the Ottawa Senators weren't shut out at least once. Nighbor & Denneny both played in all 18 games... but they only scored 22 points each. It's extremely unlikely that they scored one point in every single game (about a 0.2% chance).
In 1920, for the third year in a row, only the Ottawa Senators weren't shut out at least once. Nighbor led the team in scoring but missed a game (so he's ineligible). Darragh was second in scoring but missed two games (he's also ineligible). Every other Senator scored less than 1 ppg. So we can say with certainty that nobody scored 1 point in each game in 1920.
In 1921, Ottawa and Hamilton weren't shut out at least once. Ottawa had one player over 1 ppg: Cy Denneny, who played in all 24 games. With 39 pts in 24 games he has about a 0.5% chance of scoring 1 point in each game. Hamilton had 2 players over 1 ppg: Joe Malone (who missed 4 games) and Goldie Prodgers (who missed 1 game), thus making both of them ineligible.
In 1922, Toronto and Ottawa weren't shut out at least once. Ottawa had 2 players with at least 1 ppg. Denneny missed two games and is ineligible, but Punch Broadbent played in all 24 games and won the Art Ross with 46 pts. I estimate that he has a 2% chance of scoring >1 point in each game.
Toronto has 4 players with at least 1 ppg. All four of them played in all 24 games. Dye, Cameron, Corbett Denneny and Noble scored 37, 27, 26 and 25 pts, respectively. I estimate that Dye has around a 0.3% of scoring >1 point in each game; the others have virtually no chance.
In 1923, 1924 and 1925, every team was shut out at least once. Therefore nobody scored in every game (unless they were traded midseason, perhaps).
Conclusions
I might look into a few more years. Based on what I've done so far (1918-1925), the most likely possibility is Cy Denneny in 1918. But even then, he only had about a 6% chance of scoring >1 point in each game. I strongly suspect that nobody has ever done it.
The probability of scoring at least 1 point in every game is phenomenally remote in an 82 game season. If a player scored 300 points (!) in a season, he'd still only have a 12% chance of scoring at least one point in every game.
The only other possible times are the 29-30 season and during WW2.
The probability of scoring at least 1 point in every game is phenomenally remote in an 82 game season. If a player scored 300 points (!) in a season, he'd still only have a 12% chance of scoring at least one point in every game.
(If a team gets shut, then every player on it has at least one scoreless game)
I understand the statistical basis of this, but you're talking about randomly distributed points, and I don't think you can accurately and fairly apply this methodology to sports. If a player really did score 300 points in a season, he'd be averaging almost 4 per game. Getting shut out once in a 4-points-per-game season, would require he put up 8 in another game to balance it out. I can't find a link, but 8 a game has only happened a couple times in league history. While you probably can't apply logic to a 300-point season, CERTAINLY, we aren't talking about putting up 8 and 9 points a dozen-or-so times.ConclusionsThe probability of scoring at least 1 point in every game is phenomenally remote in an 82 game season. If a player scored 300 points (!) in a season, he'd still only have a 12% chance of scoring at least one point in every game.
I understand the statistical basis of this, but you're talking about randomly distributed points, and I don't think you can accurately and fairly apply this methodology to sports. If a player really did score 300 points in a season, he'd be averaging almost 4 per game. Getting shut out once in a 4-points-per-game season, would require he put up 8 in another game to balance it out. I can't find a link, but 8 a game has only happened a couple times in league history. While you probably can't apply logic to a 300-point season, CERTAINLY, we aren't talking about putting up 8 and 9 points a dozen-or-so times.
If somebody did manage 300 points somehow, the odds would be much higher than 1/8 that they also scored at least once every game for this.
Edit: somebody load up NHL 07 and conduct some trials.
I understand the statistical basis of this, but you're talking about randomly distributed points, and I don't think you can accurately and fairly apply this methodology to sports. If a player really did score 300 points in a season, he'd be averaging almost 4 per game. Getting shut out once in a 4-points-per-game season, would require he put up 8 in another game to balance it out. I can't find a link, but 8 a game has only happened a couple times in league history. While you probably can't apply logic to a 300-point season, CERTAINLY, we aren't talking about putting up 8 and 9 points a dozen-or-so times.
If somebody did manage 300 points somehow, the odds would be much higher than 1/8 that they also scored at least once every game for this.
Would you mind going a bit deeper into the math on that figure? It seems pretty surprising but I don't doubt it... just wondering how you came up with it.
Did Joe Malone did it in 1917-18 ? 44 goals in 20 games, there was no assist back then.
explanation
Just curious about if the same logic could be applied to a team that scored 300 goals in a season and their chances of getting shutout. Just to pick a past year at random and see how teams over 300 goals fared:
1995-96
Pittsburgh 362 goals - shutout 2 times
Detroit 325 goals - shutout 0 times
Colorado 326 goals - shutout 3 times
The Oilers were shutout once in their record `83-`84 season when they scored 446 goals.
Just like to point out that the 0-0 vs the Wanderers was not played, but is the defaulted game credited to Montreal after the Wanderers arena burnt down.
Also Joe Malone had 3 five goal games that year.
Thanks! I figured you had to make some assumption about how points were distributed per game...thought you might be using a normal distribution, but Poisson does make more sense.
Talk me through your math, yeah? I calculate the odds at less than 2%, not 12.I looked into this.The probability of scoring at least 1 point in every game is phenomenally remote in an 82 game season. If a player scored 300 points (!) in a season, he'd still only have a 12% chance of scoring at least one point in every game.