Bounces R Way
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Kucherov did something only Lemieux and Gretzky have hit before this season. It's him.
Number 1 in even strength points this season.Can you make up some stats to prove Mackinnon is a better choice for the mvp at least?
By how many pts did he win the scoring race?Kucherov has won the points race by enough that he deserves it.
? What evidence have you seen to suggest this?The voters really want to give him an award and they really don't want to give it to Kucherov for some reason.
Number 1 in even strength points this season.
That's 4% lol, it's really not.Six more points in the same amount of games played is quite a difference.
100 assists is a completely arbitrary milestoneI honestly don't see the case for MacKinnon. Kucherov has him beat in points + 100 assists factor. Their teammates are comparable, and Kucherov's were not as good this season, making him shoulder more.
Aren't all milestones completely arbitrary though?That's 4% lol, it's really not.
100 assists is a completely arbitrary milestone
And first do it as a wing. Maybe it's easier to do it as a wing?Kucherov did something only Lemieux and Gretzky have hit before this season. It's him.
He's more marketable hence he will win. Kuch is just as deserving. It shouldn't be about that but we know how these go.I think MacKinnon wins it and it's easy for any voter to come to that conclusion.
- 50+ goals
- +34 vs +8
- Didn't behave like a clown at the all star game
- Haven't won the Hart before, despite deserving it
- More likeable as a person
Which is why so many people have done it.That's 4% lol, it's really not.
100 assists is a completely arbitrary milestone
Pretty sure there are lots who don't.Pretty sure there are lots of people that think Mack is a better player
Have you ever considered the fact that MacKinnon is on the ice with Makar and Toews (deemed the best D pair in the last couple of years) while Kuch has been on the ice with a Lighting Dcore that has been in complete shambles this season?Kucherov is not good defensively and this absolutely should (and will) be held against him by some voters.
If we also look at MacKinnon's totals - 51 goals and 89 assists - only 6 have ever done it. Six. So both guys are putting up numbers that have rarely ever been seen. 100 Assists is arbitrary, its amazing, but it is arbitrary. MacKinnon also has the most even strength pts in 28 years. Both guys had historically great seasons.Yup. Short list. Should be Kuch. All 4 have cases but Kuch literally dragged his team all year. 100 assists. Only 5 have ever done it. Five. One is the greatest of this gen. Hope they make the right choice.
lots do. lots don't . That's why they said it was not some hot take because its very much up for debatePretty sure there are lots who don't.
whether or not something is rare doesn't make it any more or less arbitrary.Which is why so many people have done it.
to be fair the All-Star weekend is a joke and it has been for a long time. players dont want to even be there.MVPs don’t disrespect the All-Star game. MacK is the pick.
Rarity isn't the only factor that matters - would a 44-100-144 season also be greater than a 150 point season? Apparently you would agree with this, because 100 assists are more 'rare' than 150 points.Which is why so many people have done it.
Its actually not more rare than 150 points. Roughly equal. You're proving my point.Rarity isn't the only factor that matters - would a 44-100-144 season also be greater than a 150 point season? Apparently you would agree with this, because 100 assists are more 'rare' than 150 points.
luckily the MVP is not synonymous with the rarest stat lineIts actually not more rare than 150 points. Roughly equal. You're proving my point.