Hart Trophy: Who has better claim?

[T REX]

1. Nathan
2. Kucherov
3. McDavid
4. Matthews
5. Panarin

No.

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Easily by how many votes?

 

[Sentinel]

If it doesn't go to Kucherov, it will only be the third snub of his career (after two Conn Smythes).

 

[Garbo Man]

I think Pasta deserves some consideration. He has 110 points this year and Marchand is second on the Bruins with 67 points. If I had to guess its most likely Kuchs to lose at this point unless MacKinnon goes absolute Thanos levels of devastation in the Oilers tonight

 

[DFC]

MacKinnon has had it all year. Imagine losing it on the last game of the season

IMO he started losing it a month ago. For every solid MacKinnon argument there are 3 solid Kucherov arguments.

 

[Baberham Lincoln]

They should give it to the best player whose team improved the most.

TBL 0%
Col -3.7%
EDM -4.6%

But they won't. So I kinda expect MacKinnon to win simply because he's never won before and gives him more claim as a legit top 3 player in his era.

 

[Sentinel]

I honestly don't see the case for MacKinnon. Kucherov has him beat in points + 100 assists factor. Their teammates are comparable, and Kucherov's were not as good this season, making him shoulder more.

 

[the_fan]

Kuch might have clinched it. The Avs are 3rd in their division so the winning argument doesn’t really apply.

Tampa is a wildcard team. Not sure what you’re saying here

 

[Toby91ca]

IMO he started losing it a month ago. For every solid MacKinnon argument there are 3 solid Kucherov arguments.

Except there’s not

 

[King Woodballs]

Delete

 

[Puckstop40]

Georgiev is a good reason alone why MacK should be heavily considered.

 

[ijuka]

Kucherov deserves it more, but MacKinnon probably gets it due to gud Canadian boy and also career achievement

 

[Outl4w]

Kucherov has not won the Art Ross yet yall geeze.

You are right according to HF boards an dmack homers he is tying or breaking kucherov's point total tonight. I heard this rumor that EDM and COL are playing without goalies tonight to try to break the record. IF they break it, does it count because they all are empty net points? Kucherov broke a record that stood for over 25 years as the most assist in a season and is the fifth player in history with 100 assist. Mackinnon didn't break any NHL records this year. I would give it to McDavid before Mack.

Georgiev is a good reason alone why MacK should be heavily considered.

He has outplayed the Lightning goaltending for most of the year until Vasi started playing marginal better. Ottawa is the only team with worse goalie stats.

 

[MacMacandBarbie]

The gap is going to be 6 or less pts and Mackinnon will have 7 or more goals on Kuch.

If mack can put up 3 pts in his final game kuch will have 99% as many pts as Kucherov.

This is not a runaway , its a very, very tight race and i expect the votes to vmbe very close. FWIW on TNT before the lightning game (kuch had a 4 pt lead) all 3 of Lundqvist, Carter and Biz chose mackinnon. They obviously aren't voters, but it says something about how at least part of the media (and former players) feel about it currently.

I wouldn't expect a kuch runaway, madness a narrow win

If Ovechkin couldn't beat Henrik Sedin for the Hart in 2010 while scoring 23 more goals and finishing just 3 points back then there aint no way MacK is going to do it with 7. The voters don't care about a player having more goals to make up for point gaps historically unless they are astronomical.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Except there’s not

How?

Please lay out all the arguments for Mackinnon > Kucherov?

 

[BoHorvat 53]

There's almost a 0% chance this award is going to anyone other than MacK, unfortunately. The deserved winner would be Kuch.

 

[MacMacandBarbie]

There's almost a 0% chance this award is going to anyone other than MacK, unfortunately. The deserved winner would be Kuch.

Exactly. It is no slight on MacK, but the voters have historically shown in 2010 that 7 goals is not even going to register as a factor for a points gap like Kucherov has over MacK.

 

[DFC]

How?

Please lay out all the arguments for Mackinnon > Kucherov?

I believe there are good arguments for MacKinnon. It's just there are a lot more for Kucherov.

 

[ViD]

This should have a poll and be in the appropriate section

That said, Kuch

 

[Burkeocet]

Natedogg will get it because he never won one before and Kucherov dogged it at the allstar game. It’s one of those ones where it’s too close to call IMO. I’d give it to Kucherov just based on his point lead over his teammates though personally.

 

[SillyRabbit]

Avs played their big guns tonight and MacKinnon already has two points in the first period.

If he can cut Kucherov's lead to 3 or even 2 points, I think he takes it.

The voters really want to give him an award and they really don't want to give it to Kucherov for some reason.

 

[Pukboy5kroner]

Kuch, and he annoys me.

 

[Outl4w]

PPG against said Cupcakes - 1.60

They definitely iced a cupcake lineup for him.

 

[Rschmitz]

The voting is going to be

1.Mackinnon
2.McDavid
3.Matthews

Watch....

 

[Nathaniel Skywalker]

The voting is going to be

1.Mackinnon
2.McDavid
3.Matthews

Watch....

Kucherov should be no lower than second if not first. Anything else is horse shit

 

[ManofSteel55]

Kucherov has won the points race by enough that he deserves it.