Rumor: Habs made an offer to Gardiner, a multi-year offer.

[CristianoRonaldo]

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[HOPE]

Bergevin still hasn't learned...

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Mete - Weber
Gardiner - Petry
Chariot - Kulak

is what I would start with if we get gardiner

 

[EveryDay]

Bergevin still hasn't learned...

Learn what? He would be MTL best LD IMO.

 

[Baksfamous112]

Mete - Weber
Gardiner - Petry
Chariot - Kulak

is what I would start with if we get gardiner

I wouldn’t want Petry on the ice with Gardiner.

Gardiner - Weber
Chariot - Petry
Mete - Kulak

 

[didimentionlarseller]

He would be an upgrade on what Bergevin was trying to do with Alzner

 

[Le Barron de HF]

Learn what? He would be MTL best LD IMO.

I've never seen a more polarizing player on this board. It's super late in the summer, it can't be more than 5M a year which is perfectly fine for a player of his level. Petry was also inconsistent when he got here.

 

[habsfan92]

If we get Gardiner, Mete is not in the top 4. Not sure why people would think that.

 

[didimentionlarseller]

If we get Gardiner, Mete is not in the top 4. Not sure why people would think that.

That would be helpful for Mete I think

 

[antoniojr]

His back issues worry me but I would be happy with this if it were to happen.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Close this nonsensical thread.

TFP is a pile of trash and the title of this thread is an outright lie.

 

[HOPE]

Learn what? He would be MTL best LD IMO.

Gardiner is putrid defensively, will command a decently high cap hit ( something habs will need going foward more than people think). Signing a guy with known back problem who is already 29 year old long time is bad idea.

Gardiner is a bandaid. Not a longterm solution. Bandaids are the reason Montreal stayed mediocre for the last 20 year old. Can we be patient for once.

 

[Seb]

I wouldn't be against it but it really depends on the term and $$$

I wouldn't expect him to be a reliable top dman but he'd sure be an upgrade on the disaster we've got.

 

[Price4Prez]

lol @people putting Mete with Weber instead of Gardiner. Id bet my left nut and yours too that these would be pairings

Gardiner-Weber
Chariot-Petry
Mete-Juulsen

Folin, Reilly will be in the mix for last pairing.

Mete and his potential is massively overrated here.

 

[pepperMonkey]

Gardiner is putrid defensively, will command a decently high cap hit ( something habs will need going foward more than people think). Signing a guy with known back problem who is already 29 year old long time is bad idea.

Gardiner is a bandaid. Not a longterm solution. Bandaids are the reason Montreal stayed mediocre for the last 20 year old. Can we be patient for once.

A bandaid...but a bandaid that's still better than any LD we have...which is more a reflection of how bad our left side is... He would be our #1 LD if signed.

 

[EveryDay]

Gardiner is putrid defensively, will command a decently high cap hit ( something habs will need going foward more than people think). Signing a guy with known back problem who is already 29 year old long time is bad idea.

Gardiner is a bandaid. Not a longterm solution. Bandaids are the reason Montreal stayed mediocre for the last 20 year old. Can we be patient for once.

Disagree, he's not as bad defensively as you think, he's Petry's bad. He will make some awful play in his own zone just like Petry but most of the time he's just fine. He would probably be MTL best first pass and 2nd best offensive defenceman and can also manage a 1st PP unit.

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

lol @people putting Mete with Weber instead of Gardiner. Id bet my left nut and yours too that these would be pairings

Gardiner-Weber
Chariot-Petry
Mete-Juulsen

Folin, Reilly will be in the mix for last pairing.

Mete and his potential is massively overrated here.

Kulak was one of our best defenceman after the all-star break last year. Zero chance he's not in our top 6.

 

[HOPE]

Disagree, he's not as bad defensively as you think, he's Petry's bad. He will make some awful play in his own zone just like Petry but most of the time he's just fine. He would probably be MTL best first pass and 2nd best offensive defenceman and can also manage a 1st PP unit.

BOLD: he's realy not.

people just don't get my point.
if He's a habs next year:
YES Gardiner will be the best offensive Dman next season, but thats not the point, the FIT is awful. like i stated above he's a bandaid, a short term solution that will end up a cap archor. Montreal is in no urge to win or contend. Gardiner will barely make a difference in a overall team success in his short peak and will damage the team for the rest of his contract.

 

[dcal64]

lol @people putting Mete with Weber instead of Gardiner. Id bet my left nut and yours too that these would be pairings

Gardiner-Weber
Chariot-Petry
Mete-Juulsen

Folin, Reilly will be in the mix for last pairing.

Mete and his potential is massively overrated here.

Did we trade Kulak?

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Disagree, he's not as bad defensively as you think, he's Petry's bad. He will make some awful play in his own zone just like Petry but most of the time he's just fine. He would probably be MTL best first pass and 2nd best offensive defenceman and can also manage a 1st PP unit.

Agreed. He has warts but he's underrated.

My biggest concern is his back injury. I believe he's coming off surgery and if so, that's a huge risk. Apart from that... I've always been a fan of Gartner's. He'd be a million times better than what we have back there and he'd come with us giving up anything other than cap space. Injury aside I'd pull the trigger.

Back injuries are risky though... I don't think I'd sign him based on that. If we do, I hope it's short term.

If we do sign him, I will credit it as a trade equivalent for @Lshap who predicted a big move in the next two weeks.

 

[EveryDay]

BOLD: he's realy not.

people just don't get my point.
if He's a habs next year:
YES Gardiner will be the best offensive Dman next season, but thats not the point, the FIT is awful. like i stated above he's a bandaid, a short term solution that will end up a cap archor. Montreal is in no urge to win or contend. Gardiner will barely make a difference in a overall team success in his short peak and will damage the team for the rest of his contract.

The fit is awful? I disagree, IF he's healthy he's an awesome fit for MTL. His transition game is on par with Petry and MTL would benefit a tons to pair that guy with Weber. And damage the team with his contract? how so? we don't even know how many years were talking here, it might be only 2 or 3 years....

And seriously you don't think MTL would benefit from having a quaterback on the PP? I don't get it honestly

 

[Vachon23]

The fit is awful? I disagree, IF he's healthy he's an awesome fit for MTL. His transition game is on par with Petry and MTL would benefit a tons to pair that guy with Weber. And damage the team with his contract? how so? we don't even know how many years were talking here, it might be only 2 or 3 years....

And seriously you don't think MTL would benefit from having a quaterback on the PP? I don't get it honestly

His transition game is even better then Petry

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Disagree, he's not as bad defensively as you think, he's Petry's bad. He will make some awful play in his own zone just like Petry but most of the time he's just fine. He would probably be MTL best first pass and 2nd best offensive defenceman and can also manage a 1st PP unit.

That is not even close to being true. Gardiner is a cream puff who doesn't compete in front of the net or along the boards.

 

[EveryDay]

Agreed. He has warts but he's underrated.

My biggest concern is his back injury. I believe he's coming off surgery and if so, that's a huge risk. Apart from that... I've always been a fan of Gartner's. He'd be a million times better than what we have back there and he'd come with us giving up anything other than cap space. Injury aside I'd pull the trigger.

Back injuries are risky though... I don't think I'd sign him based on that. If we do, I hope it's short term.

If we do sign him, I will credit it as a trade equivalent for @Lshap who predicted a big move in the next two weeks.

People are giving him crap and for a good reason, he was awful 2 years in a row in some key matches in the playoffs but they just totally discard what he did in the regular season for the last 3 years... he's a guy that can produce 40 to 50 points if use on our 1st PP. Hummm Gardiner or Folin is the top6, not sure who to pick.... please god help me!!!

 

[Vachon23]

Can’t believe some here doesn’t want Gardiner because we have Kulak ...