Great skaters, bad players

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  1. Big Phil

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    Who in your mind was a guy who was always known to have great wheels but never a vey good player, or at leat turned out to be one. Its rare when there are players who are as fast as the wind out there and have their head catch up to their skates. Yvan Cournoyer is a perfect example of a guy who skated like the wind and put it al togehter to translate that into goals, Pavel Bure is another one. Some guys skate too fast for their own good though. Here are some guys who skated ver fast but were never very good, or arent good.

    Ken Yaremchuk - Had great speed but no head.
    Rico Fata - Skated like he was a racecar, but always looks like he's going in circles. To me his head hasnt caught up to his feet, and may never will.
    Jason Chimera - I dont know why he never could put up decent points at least.

    One guy I think about was Bob Bourne. What a fast, fast skater. He doesnt belong with the other guys, cause he won 4 Cups with the Isles and had some good point seasons ( he had 28 playoff points in '83). But he's a guy who was a good player but you'd always see him skate and wonder how he didnt go through the whole team.
     
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    Todd Marchant. He could fly and he was GREAT at finding the crest on the goalie's jersey with his shots. Thank God he left Edmonton.
     
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    Russ Courtnall wasn't a bad player, nor close. He was a marvelous skater who if he'd had great hands, might have been a hall of famer.
     
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    Mike Donnelly!
     
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    Paul Ranheim has played 1000 games, so not sure he counts, but in those early years with Calgary he never lived up to his IHL billing. alot of speed, not much else
     
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    What? Pavel Bure a bad player?
     
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    Its rare when there are players who are as fast as the wind out there and have their head catch up to their skates. Yvan Cournoyer is a perfect example of a guy who skated like the wind and put it al togehter to translate that into goals, Pavel Bure is another one

    He's saying the opposite if you read closely..
     
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    Alexandre Daigle.

    Two more who have great speed and are pretty good players but you always kinda expect more....

    Geoff Sanderson.

    Sami Kapanen.
     
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    Geez, Richard Park is the first player who comes to mind. Skates like the wind, but couldn't hit the side of a barn - even if he was inside the damned barn.
     
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    Gene Carr was supposedly the fastest skater of his time.

    Murray Wilson also comes to mind.

    How about Bob Gainey? I always thought he may have been a right handed shot he had such hands of stone.
     
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    Bob Gainey a bad player??? Hands of stone, yes, that's a reasonable argument, but bad player :dunno: :dunno:
     
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    I think he meant bad offensive player which he indeed was but his incredible defensive game more then made up for it.
     
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    Rico Fata is the first guy that came to my mind when I heard the title of the thread. Although he's not that bad of a player people expect more since he skates so fast.
     
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    Oilers prospect Tony Salmelainen is an awesome skater. Like a young Marchant or Draper he isn't a great finisher.
     
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    That's who came to mind for me. Man, he could fly. Hands never caught up to his feet though. Anybody remember Ron Flockhart ? He looked great for a few games in Mtl., 'til we realized, he was Sheehan re-incarnated. Didn't they refer to him as Flockey Hockey when he was in Philly ?
     
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    Flockhart is a complete mystery to me; for a few games and others with other teams he was more than a great skater; he could really stickhandle (FlockeyHockey)
    - only thing was he had his head down a lot and didnt pass much for a centre. But I dont get why he never became a huge star.

    He reminded me a lot of Morenz from old footage (really).
     
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    Your avatar is funny; bucky's is bad karma.
     
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    Fast as hell, but no skill at all.
     
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    Yeah, it's pretty bad when you can safely get up for a snack break in the midst of a breakaway by your favorite team.. securely knowing you won't miss anything. That's my memory of Marchant- best pure speed end to end the Oilers had since Anderson. Unfortunately, he had precious little in the way of offensive instincts to go with the wheels..
     
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    I beseech thee, please carry out your (adorable) mutual affection sharing without involving me as a helpless victim. Please enjoy and stick the thread topic without the harsh statements at my expense.. ;) Thanks so much
     
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    Flockhart was the one I thought of, too. And Alex Daigle, although he isn't really all that bad, just should have done more.
     
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    If the word bad can be used loosely here, then how about Paul Henderson? I guess he had some decent seasons and, of course, he played eight brilliant games "you know when", but never could become even close to great in his NHL career... or even in his WHA career.
     
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