Post-Game Talk: Gonna Stu on this loss for a while

[frag2]

we have had zero physical response to Vancouver, and no depth scoring to show for it. The majority of this roster is not contributing anything offiensively or anything physically/emotionally.

I hope McDrai rip into the rest of the team because it's pathetic to not only watch these passengers play, but also fail to intimidate and play the body or defend teammates on home ice.

The sad thing is we have a team full of 6'2+ players but they all play like their 5'6? f***, Yamo played more physical when he was with us.

Biggest reasons for playoff failure

1. Skinner is literally the worst playoff goalie in the cap era. Worst save percentage and his 5 times pulled is the most for 20 games played.. I think ever.

2. Nurse and Ceci just DO NOT work together, Nurse and Desharnais don't work either but they are consistently the worst pairing. Coaching staff is at least trying to limit their minutes but they almost only see 3rd line opposition and are getting crushed. Its like having 2 Ian Coles.

3. Depth scoring is pretty invisible however coaching staff is falling into the "load up the top line" mess again. All the good playoff teams right now are spreading the wealth thru the lineup.
Dallas top 9
Robertson - Hintz - Stankoven
Benn - Johnston - Pavelski
Marchment - Duchene - Seguin

Colorado
Lehkonen - MacKinnon - Ratanen
Nichushkin - Mittelstadt - Parise
Wood - Colton - Kiriranta
(Drouin is injured or this would be a little different)

Rangers
Kreider - Zibanejad - Roslovic
Panarin - Trocheck - Lafreniere
Cuylle - Wennberg - Kakko

Most are spreading out over 2 lines, some sprinking into the third.
We load up literally one line and thats it. You can't win like that.

Yea. Serevalli piece this morning was talking about it.
The worst goalie in the playoffs since 2005
Just f***ing brutal

 

[Canovin]

AHAHAHAHAHA Dan Cloutier is the only goalie with 20 or more playoff games who didn't play in the 1980's who has a playoff sv% worse than Skinner. WOWWWWWWWWWWWWW.

Keithisactuallybad and Thenumber4 will somehow still try to defend Skinner lol

 

[Echodek]

Yeah we played super well in game one. Are you ever going to call out your boy? Dash five in three games this series.

You ever going to call out your boy??

 

[frag2]

One thing they need to do is break up the 3rd line. While McLeod's not getting scored on, he can't keep leaving his linemate out to hang by looking into the air and skating away when Perry is trying to engage the Canucks.

That's not McLeod's game, fine. But then play him on a line with Janmark and Ryan/Brown where it's okay for them to keep their nose as clean as their defensive zone.


I like the idea of getting Carrick back in there and letting him and Perry muck it up a bit. Assuming Henrique is still out, For next game I'd go with...

Drai-McDavid-Hyman
Holloway-RNH-Kane
Janmark-McLeod-Ryan
Foegele-Carrick-Perry

With the plan to toss one of McDrai out with the 4th line occasionally to switch up the matchups.

With Holloway/Kane and Carrick/Perry as physical combos, the McLeod line just focusing on playing clean defence is fine.

RNH at center needs to stop. Period. I'd rather have Holloway be a faux Center than Nuge. Guy is beyond useless when the game intensity is up

 

[Sanchez]

 

[MoontoScott]

Hah I'd honestly do that without an extended Marner. And then either flip or just ride one year. That 9+M of Nurse is a forever anchor



I've said earlier in this thread-the Dmen will at worst give you ~20 mins of shit play per night; Skinner is guaranteed 55+

Not much choice but to regroup and try to make some adjustments. There is no room in playoff hockey for some of the defensive miscues we saw last night and there are at least 9 guys up front who need to do some soul searching on their lack of contribution in the playoffs so far.

If Knob chooses to start Skinner then that's his choice and not the players. They don't control what the coach does.

Oilers will win tomorrow night and I'm still taking them to win the series in 7.

 

[BlackDogg]

Who gives a shit what Aunt Irma thinks?

 

[TB12]

Its one of the worst NHL freeze frames that you will ever see. Made worse because its McD, the best player in the world on the receiving end.

The last worst moment in hockey was arguably Bertuzzi hunting Moore down on ice and clubbing him and slamming his head into the ice. A criminal offense in which he was charged. Not too curiously the same team, the Canucks, who resort to the absolute worst dirty play.

No wonder everybody hates them.

If Diving Petey got hit like McD did he'd break in half and the Cuck fans would be calling the police (a la Montreal fans) claiming assualt.

Sucks because the Cucks just have carte blanche to attack the best player on the planet, attempting injury, and you know if an Oiler jumps in and does anything, auto 1-game suspension. We've seen this shit before.

If they're down at end of game 4 I absolutely blow up Petey or Hughes f***ing face with a crosscheck and dare DOPS to expose this horseshit double standard.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

RNH at center needs to stop. Period. I'd rather have Holloway be a faux Center than Nuge. Guy is beyond useless when the game intensity is up

I agree. But with both Drai and Henrique hobbled, they have little choice but to go with Plan C for the 2nd line centre.

 

[Ibanez]

I'm not going to bother watching if the Oilers start Skinner next game. Got better things to do like spend time with my 2 month old

I’m a game time decision. See how I’m feeling that night. I’ve only watched mostly the 3rd period the last two games. If skinner is playing, not sure I have the stomach to watch.

Skinner, our D (nurse/ceci) and the complete ineptitude of our bottom 6/9 makes me just want to go and enjoy better things for the night (like my 8 month old)

I wasn’t even mad after last nights loss. Like what’s the point. Holland had one job and failed. I turned off the game and went to play some games on PC and enjoyed the rest of my night.

 

[elmeroil]

Guys come on, Skinner is fine and he's trying his best. Let's cut him some slack, after all he's why the Oilers are here! Without Skinner the Oilers would be....well.....likely President's Trophy winners and possibly Stanley Cup Champions.

 

[Little Fury]

It's time.

 

[frag2]

I agree. But with both Drai and Henrique hobbled, they have little choice but to go with Plan C for the 2nd line centre.

Honestly a 1 leg Drai is better than a 120% Nuge. Don't get why the latter has the fanbase that he does

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

because we have Skinner in net

Then shouldn’t all the pairings be getting exposed? Why is it that Nurse/Ceci for three straight games have been getting crushed in every metric?

 

[Sanchez]

Who gives a shit what Aunt Irma thinks?

f*** off Jim and retire already!

 

[MoontoScott]

A cowardly act but if the NHL cracked down on what goes on with superstars (like other leagues do) then it might not happen in the first place. Messier would have throttled this guy but there is no such personality on this version of the Oilers.

 

[CornKicker]

f*** off Jim and retire already!

100% irma ass idiot no one cares

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

You ever going to call out your boy??

Skinner needs to play better. He’s far from the only one. You can’t consistently win games with one line scoring and your second pair getting beaten like a rented mule game after game.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Then shouldn’t all the pairings be getting exposed? Why is it that Nurse/Ceci for three straight games have been getting crushed in every metric?

They haven't been good but Skinner failure to make a big save is exposing them even worse

Skinner is statistically the worst goalie in the playoffs since Dan Cloutier...there's no sugar-coating that

its a goddamn fact

 

[oilers4life5]

Send one of the AHL plugs on the taxi squad out to absolutely run all bucks players from behind.

 

[elmeroil]

It's time.

5 GA in his one AHL playoff game, not sure he's the answer. They have to ride Pickard now either to destiny or the golf course

 

[K1984]

Well I guess we're in a position where Pickard has to go on fire out of nowhere or Skinner will have to somehow do a 180 to get where we need to be. Sucks. f***ing sucks that save for a miracle f***ing goaltending is the reason we won't win this year. Maybe it's just the Nucks that cause Skinner to mentally collapse and if we somehow get through this with Pickard, then maybe Skinner could be playable again down the road? That's the best possible scenario. Grim.

I thought we started well again, then once agains decided to stop skating the second something bad happened (their PP goal). We stopped skating, pucks got rimmed, players started making Pejorative Slured decisions (McDavid and Foegele). Still need the saves though.

 

[Forgot About Drai]

Nuge needs to also be held accountable. Other then longevity, I really dont understand the intense love he gets from Oil fans. Hes so soft, is a PP merchant and has 2 goals in his last 20 playoff games. Hes so bang average its insane.

 

[brentashton]

Was this sequence premeditated for the end of the game?

Looks that way.

That should be requiring a supplemental discipline hearing, but sadly it’s almost 12 noon in NYC and not a sound has been made from head office.

Edit
@Frank the Tank steered me right. Thanks Frank!

 

[Frank the Tank]

That should be requiring a supplemental discipline hearing, but sadly it’s almost 12 noon in NYC and not a sound has been made from head office.

Friedman tweeted a hearing will happen. Look a few posts before yours.