sinDer
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Probably. It was a missed call on cross-checking. It happens.
If that was a cross check, then they should call at least 20 penalties, each side, per game lol
Probably. It was a missed call on cross-checking. It happens.
Yes they should until the players quit doing it.If that was a cross check, then they should call at least 20 penalties, each side, per game lol
I mean, objectively that isn’t close to what he said at all.Swayman said prgress wasnt impeded, so Ill go with what the goalie said.
I mean, objectively that isn’t close to what he said at all.
Cool, now try listening to the whole quote.It is literally the EXACT words that came out of his mouth.
"I dont think progress was impeded, I just think we could have prevented that..."
Now, if he knows he f'd up by saying what he did, and tried to backtrack after, then thats a different story.
Cool, now try listening to the whole quote.
“The fact is Coyle was pushed into me and I couldn’t play my position…”
It was literally from the same quote you’re trying to use as a gotcha claiming Swayman said it wasn’t interference. Like literally the next sentence. He wasn’t backtracking on anything, you’re just too lazy to actually listen to something in its entirety.Cool, I guess you missed the part where I said "Now, if he knows he f'd up by saying what he did, and tried to backtrack after, then thats a different story."
But hey, since he corrected himself, all is good then.
Im sure then you believe what Bennett had to say then, about the Marchand play.
It was literally from the same quote you’re trying to use as a gotcha claiming Swayman said it wasn’t interference. Like literally the next sentence. He wasn’t backtracking on anything, you’re just too lazy to actually listen to something in its entirety.
Man that says even more about your comprehension skills.I listened to the entirety thank you very much. Swayman said what he said, and backtracks with the Coyle comment afterwards.
Interpret it as you wish, I could care less.
Since any crosschecks and interference on Coyle aren't reviewable you have to remove that from the play. You have to to assume that everything that went on between them was a legal hockey play.No I don't really think you can argue this was fighting for a loose rebound, as when you do such, you make a play on the puck. He made a play on the body. It'd be a different story if he made a play on the stick, like lift it etc, but that body of work is literally not fighting for the puck, it was playing the body. And he shoved the body before the puck even arrived in a position to be played. So yea it still is GI. I agree the crosscheck isn't reviewable if they didn't see that, but that was not incidental contact, it was intent to push the player out of position, not making a play on the puck first
Also by rule of said wording, it's about incidental contact by attacker and goalie, not an attacker pushing a defender into goalie. Don't even need to slow down that clip to see the shove came before an attempted play on puck. This is not considered incidental play.
I think people are saying a cross check was missed aren't quite on the mark. 9.5/10 times that play in itself would never be called for cross checking if it was just two skaters and no goalie. Even though it was to the numbers, it was pretty tame to be called cross checking on its own.If that was a cross check, then they should call at least 20 penalties, each side, per game lol
Cool, now try listening to the whole quote.
“The fact is Coyle was pushed into me and I couldn’t play my position…”
The push put Coyle literally on top of the goalie, who had no shot to get his right arm up and over.Coyle was already in his way to start, so I don't know how a nudge was going to change anything. Coyle was in the blue paint and in the way without the push. His left leg/skate.
The push put Coyle literally on top of the goalie, who had no shot to get his right arm up and over.
The rule is written so that if the goalie cannot make an attempt then it's called back. Who's to say if Swayman starts getting his stick over there that the shot doesn't get duffed, or Bennet doesn't try to lift it?The puck was along the ice.
I think people are saying a cross check was missed aren't quite on the mark. 9.5/10 times that play in itself would never be called for cross checking if it was just two skaters and no goalie. Even though it was to the numbers, it was pretty tame to be called cross checking on its own.
The simple argument is the goalie interference rule states that a defending player cannot be pushed, shoved or fouled into a goalie, if he is, its assumed as if the attacking player made contact with the goalie.
So while it may have not been cross checking (foul/penalty) under normal circumstances, it's hard to say the defender wasn't pushed/shoved into the goalie.
Whether or not the goalie had a reasonable chance at stopping the puck should have no bearing. Even if he had a 1% shot at a save, that was taken away when his defender was pushed/shoved into him.
Maybe not enough to warrant 2 minutes, but arguably enough to negate the goal.
My guess is the refs either saw the "weak" contact and because it wasn't aggressive enough to fall into the typical bounds of cross checking/roughing/hitting from behind, simply flubbed the call/rule, or simply missed the contact all together.
By the rule he was pretty clearly pushed into his own goalie, but the call on the ice carries a lot of weight, and with certain plays non reviewable, the refs have a lot of responsibility to get things right in the moment.
His attempt at a save just literally happened a split second before. It literally just came off his pad/toe.The rule is written so that if the goalie cannot make an attempt then it's called back. Who's to say if Swayman starts getting his stick over there that the shot doesn't get duffed, or Bennet doesn't try to lift it?
As long as there is more than a total 0 chance of Swayman getting there it should be called back.
aaaand then he had a guy on top of him, thus he's unable to make a play on the shot that went inHis attempt at a save just literally happened a split second before. It literally just came off his pad/toe.
It was awkward because he was on top of his goalie and he didn't want to hit him.That was a weak cross check, Coyle went down pretty easy. I've seen worse go uncalled in the playoffs.