GDT: Game 5 | Leafs @ Bruins | COME BACK BEGINS - WAKE UP EDITION | Tuesday, Apr. 30 7 p.m. EST | Leafs trail series 1-3

[egd27]

You don't just let a 99 point capable All-Star walk from your organization after giving him a sweet heart contract. That's just bad asset management. If anything you agree to let him work out a sign and trade and get back a major asset like the Tkachuck trade.

I prefer we kept him. There's room for growth.

Obviously that would be a preferable option. My point was if he becomes obstinate with his contract demands (including waiving NMC) they can't capitulate.

 

[ACC1224]

I kinda feel Matthews is 60/40 to play. Hoping he is feeling 75% or better. He needs to have an impact if he plays.

Good with Woll starting, would have been good with Sammy too.

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If he's 75% dress him if only to play on the PP.

 

[Darcy Tucker]

If he's 75% dress him if only to play on the PP.

Yeah just sit him on the side like Ovi and have him as an option for a one timer. Its our best shot with our sad sack offense right now. No one is clicking , not surprised.

 

[Tak7]

Yeah I don’t think losing the main cog of a 50% PK and 10% PP is the problem you think it is.

I'm talking objectively, without analyzing his admittedly poor performance - you still have to replace the significant, multi-faceted roles he takes on in the lineup.

And you want to replace those holes via pieces you get back in a trade, not hoping you can get by with overpaying free agents.

 

[fahad203]

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If he's 75% dress him if only to play on the PP.

No. Why risk losing for long term
Let's see if we can win without him. If we do. He gets few days of rest.

If we don't. Well we dont

 

[tom leafers]

Bro. Appreciate your feedback
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I owe you beers

Beauty!

Best of luck with it

 

[Martin Skoula]

I'm talking objectively, without analyzing his admittedly poor performance - you still have to replace the significant, multi-faceted roles he takes on in the lineup.

And you want to replace those holes via pieces you get back in a trade, not hoping you can get by with overpaying free agents.

I don’t see why we need to get a UFA or trade to replace him as the puck carrier on the PP when Nylander can do the job just as well. PK specialists aren’t expensive. Domi did an ok job replacing him at ES on the Matthews line.

It’s clear we need a new look for how the team plays, replacing Keefe will go a long way but if Marner is still the main piece in those situations we’re going to continue playing some variant of Marner hockey. I’m not blaming him for it, he doesn’t decide how Keefe uses him, but either the next coach doesn’t use him the same way or we play largely the same brand of hockey.

 

[myleafs]

I'm not afraid to make changes.

I'm afraid that you let Marner go for nothing, which sets you back as an organization for a very long time.

Why? are the leafs just gonna bank the 11+mill and not add anything to the roster?

 

[Leafsfan74]

Yeah I don’t think losing the main cog of a 50% PK and 10% PP is the problem you think it is.

Don't forget the "dump in and you take the puck good sir" ummm, forecheck?

 

[Jojalu]

Are they though?


Im shocked I tell ya ...shocked

For all their regular season success, they have been upset quite a bit in thecpast 7 years.

They have blown series, lost series they were favourites.

Just because they havn't been as bad as the Leafs doesn't mean they have been good

 

[Xecross]

I'm talking objectively, without analyzing his admittedly poor performance - you still have to replace the significant, multi-faceted roles he takes on in the lineup.

And you want to replace those holes via pieces you get back in a trade, not hoping you can get by with overpaying free agents.

I mean why do all those holes don't have to be replaced externally. It just means that more guys have the opportunity to step up and take on a bigger role. A couple guys stepping up and bringing in 1-2 pieces via a trade would fill those holes you mentioned. Might not be perfect, but given time, there's a good possibility that it would pay-off. (i.e. Knies taking on a PK role; albeit I don't know if that's the best idea)

It's been mentioned countless times before, but the Leafs need to do a better job at developing players and that means they need to give them opportunities.

 

[supermann_98]

I'm not afraid to make changes.

I'm afraid that you let Marner go for nothing, which sets you back as an organization for a very long time.

You let him go for the 11m cap space that you use to sign Shea Theodore and have money left over for a competent backup goalie, done and dusted and a better team almost immediately

 

[myleafs]

If you took him off the team, 11 days ago before game 1, does the series change in anyway for the better?

Feel free to take your time answering that one.

could it be any worse?

 

[Rare Jewel]

It would be extremely Leafs to win this game and lose the next one.

It would.

But it would be very "core 4" era Leafs to just roll over tonight.

 

[Metroid]

I've never used proline before, but I put $50 on the Leafs tonight (which is apparently the maximum I can bet on olg.ca, although I have no idea how long ago I must have set that limit), which pays out $75. Those seem like incredibly good odds.

I actually put 6.66 the other day for Leafs to come back and beat the bruins this series. lol nets me 49 bucks and change lol
Not expecting to win it, but it'll make things little more interesting

 

[myleafs]

For all their regular season success, they have been upset quite a bit in thecpast 7 years.

They have blown series, lost series they were favourites.

Just because they havn't been as bad as the Leafs doesn't mean they have been good

I was responding to the poster who said the bruins are dealing with their own demons and from what I have seen so far, Im not seeing it.

 

[ACC1224]

Bro. Appreciate your feedback
As soon as you said that. I quickly checked with my insurance

They said I am I may be covered...


I owe you beers



No. Why risk losing for long term
Let's see if we can win without him. If we do. He gets few days of rest.

If we don't. Well we dont

All that matters is winning tonight. Longterm is a problem for another day.

 

[Tak7]

could it be any worse?

Yes. It's been a largely even series at even strength (Boston 7-6 Toronto in goals).

Take away that checking line, and Pastrnak cooks - which I suspect he will tonight now that Boston will be able to get away from that matchup

 

[Leafsfan74]

Why? are the leafs just gonna bank the 11+mill and not add anything to the roster?

Precisely. Nothing is more valuable than $11M in Cap Space for a team that has won 1 Playoff Round in 8 attempts.

BTW, I also look to move Reilly too and see what Tavares is feeling with his NMC.

Look, at some point the team has to be blunt. It's not personal, it's strictly business. These players weren't making minimum wage and manning the checkouts of groceries stores during covid. They are making more in a season than many hard working people make their entire years.

I am not insensitive to their plight, but, they have been very well remunerated for the inconveniences of being traded.

Build around Nylander and Matthews, plus men like McCabb, Reaves and the young guns Knies, McMann, Benoit etc.

Use the money to get a legit #1 DMan if you can, and a legit #1 goalie. Some middle of the pack North South forwards and build balance. If you lose 5-6 points in the standings, so be it.

 

[Drytoast]

If you took him off the team, 11 days ago before game 1, does the series change in anyway for the better?

Feel free to take your time answering that one.

Leafs did just fine during his absence in the regular season. That's how we came to learn that Domi was a better fit for Matthews than Marner, because he's willing to drop em when appropriate.

Marner is a negative in the playoffs. Every minute on the ice is a chance this little scared f***er turns the puck over or loses a battle along the boards or doesn't take his man.

Now it gets even more obvious if you allow me to swap Marner out for 2 5M valued guys for the playoffs that WILL go into corners. For 5M I could get Kerfoot back as a 3C. For 5M I could have retained Hyman. For 5M I get another Bertuzzi. Or Luke Schenn...what are we talking about here?

Know what I'm not doing with Marner out of the line up?

I'm not over playing a defensive liability heavy minutes because he's paid 11M a season and is unfortunately one the leaders of this team.

That's what I'm not doing.

 

[Tak7]

You let him go for the 11m cap space that you use to sign Shea Theodore and have money left over for a competent backup goalie, done and dusted and a better team almost immediately

They aren't a Shea Theodore and a backup away from being a contender, but fair enough.

 

[ULF_55]

You don't just let a 99 point capable All-Star walk from your organization after giving him a sweet heart contract. That's just bad asset management. If anything you agree to let him work out a sign and trade and get back a major asset like the Tkachuck trade.

I prefer we kept him. There's room for growth.

The Leafs issues aren't because of marner, they're because there is no leadership, no Gilmour nor Trottier nor Sittler nor Sundin nor Roberts nor ...

A bunch of higher skilled and talented individuals. I'm kind of surprised Nylander was the one who spoke up on the bench. I think they have to demote the aura of Matthews being their key player, and make him a key player.

 

[Darch]

Sit back, enjoy the game. Whatever happens, happens. The sun will still rise in the morning.

 

[Darcy Tucker]

Sit back, enjoy the game. Whatever happens, happens. The sun will still rise in the morning.

Hockey is just game. Why you heff to be mad?

 

[Rude Dog]

Haven't been able to watch a minute of hockey since the game Sat night. The thought makes me ill. But I will tune in tonight because I love to suffer. Haven't read any reports, but this illness thing is as strange as the migranes. I wonder if Mathews has mono?