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Value of: G Jake Allen
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Yeah, that's one for sure.
Not saying there aren't places, but there just aren't many, especially if you factor in contracts.
Carolina isn't spending any assets for Allen. Darling for Allen straight up. Otherwise Carolina is looking for a solution, not someone else's problem.
Meant it strictly in terms of whether or not he'd be an upgrade, not so much how willing Carolina would be to trade for him.
This is a two sided sword for the Blues. Moving Allen is fine on a money level but is the team for sure upgrading? Hutton(Have to sign him first) and Husso is that better? Not sure because Husso has not seen NHL playing time to know how much of his AHL will come over. No team will trade an elite goalie and free agent is super thin in options and nobody really a improvement over what we have now. So should the Blues gamble on Husso/Hutton is the question?
At the same time we can get rid of that contract. Which long term could be a good thing. We just have to remember Allen is streaky and when he good he damn good. But when he bad, he's very bad.
At the same time we can get rid of that contract. Which long term could be a good thing. We just have to remember Allen is streaky and when he good he damn good. But when he bad, he's very bad.
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Allen could be your solution. He certainly isn't our problem. I just know that we would be able to resign Hutton and move Allen if that is the route management elected to take.
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If Allen wasn't a problem, we wouldn't want to move him.
I don't ever remember a starting goalie being told to stay home from road trips so he could get his mind straight, let alone two years in a row. Allen isn't an upgrade over anyone.
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I specifically was seeking opinions from other teams' fans but I will take the bait. This is my POV as a Blues fan.
Clear Upgrade
Hurricanes
Islanders
Upgrade/Lateral Move/Replacing Aging Netminder
Sabres - Replacement for Lehner
Flyers - Replacement for Elliott
Panthers - Replacement for Luongo
Senators - Replacement for Anderson
Flames - Replacement for Smith
Oilers - Replacement for Talbot
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I have little interest in buying high on Hutton. Thrust him into the 1A role and I'd bet money he crumbles.
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And a very unique situation as well. How often has a playoff spot been decided on the last night of the regular season where one of the teams had to play back-to-back games on the road?
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Should Allen get traded, I would hope for another 1A/1B situation with Hutton and another goalie not currently on the roster.
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I agree Allen would be an upgrade for the Isles.
NY should make a deal if the Blues take back Clutterbuck plus Greiss.
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In a vacuum, Lehner for Allen makes some sense. Ttwo once-promising goalies who were bad last year, yet still young enough to deserve a change of scenery shot.
Some believe the Sabres may not qualify Lehner, mostly because the offer would be for Allen money. But if they won’t qualify Lehner, not sure why they’d want his doppelgänger for three years at the same contract.
Also a decent chance that Lehner might sign for less than his qualifier, because it is very unlikely he will get $4 million-plus as a UFA.
Some believe the Sabres may not qualify Lehner, mostly because the offer would be for Allen money. But if they won’t qualify Lehner, not sure why they’d want his doppelgänger for three years at the same contract.
Also a decent chance that Lehner might sign for less than his qualifier, because it is very unlikely he will get $4 million-plus as a UFA.
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we can take greiss. i think management wants husso to be the #1 guy in SA this year and prove he can handle a starters workload. maybe roll a hutton/Greiss combo........... OMG MAYBE THEYRE PART OF A TAVARES SIGN AND TRADE
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The real question is what do the Blues do for a goalie who would be better than Allen? Don't say Hutton, because he's never shouldered the load as a #1. If you think Husso, then you have more faith in a player who has zero NHL ice time than I do. You roll with Allen and bring in a backup and let Husso get a year as the #1 in San Antonio. Then the following year you roll Allen and Husso as a 1A/1B which the Blues do so well at. The total cost in goalies between Husso and Allen would be just over $5.4M, which isn't bad money for a goalie tandem.
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That is too much salary coming this way and that Clutterbuck contract looks really bad in terms of length. And Greiss would be lateral at best.
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NYI and Carolina are the only two that definitely could use him.
hard to pinpoint his value. Carolina would wanna do Allen for Darling+
NYI would wanna unload Greiss in any deal
If the blues kept Hutton...i think a late 2nd/early 3rd is fair for Allen given the risk of his contract being burdensome if he continues to play terribly
hard to pinpoint his value. Carolina would wanna do Allen for Darling+
NYI would wanna unload Greiss in any deal
If the blues kept Hutton...i think a late 2nd/early 3rd is fair for Allen given the risk of his contract being burdensome if he continues to play terribly
